Hey mo3, Hey mo3! Nyuck nyuck!
June 27, 2010 at 11:34 am
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2010 at 11:36 am by Paul the Human.)
Mo3, I do have one thing to thank you for. I now know more about Islam than ever before, because you encouraged me to look into it. It has had the opposite effect from the one you intended, but you still get the credit. So, thank you mo3, for helping me to understand how silly and delusional Muslim beliefs are.
But that’s not the reason I asked you here. I would like you to read something. Here is an article from Associated Content News entitled The Problem of the Historical Mohammed: Confronting Myths About the Life and Divinity of Mohammed. I’d like to hear your thoughts on it. The entire article is Here.
It’s long, but I still suggest you read it thoroughly. However, because I know that you won’t, I’m going to quote some bits of it for you in the hope that you can provide coherent and intelligent rebuttal. Or admit that it is correct. Whichever you like.
Have you ever bothered to learn who your prophet really was, mo3?
Your prophet was a blood-thirsty warlord.
Your prophet was not a god.
Your prophet was a ladies man. A bigamist pedophile ladies man.
Your prophet was a dictator and a liar.
Your prophet was possessed by Satan.
Your prophet was insane.
You said that you are Muslim, because you researched all of the alternatives and only believe that Islam is the truth. So, you already believed there was a god, read the ‘books’, and decided that the book you’d been indoctrinated to believe was the one truth. How surprising. What I want to know is, how can you believe that this blood-thirsty, murderous, womanizing, lying, crazy man was actually your god’s chosen mouthpiece? How can you believe that this tyrannical dictator should be the one and only role model for your entire way of life? How can you possibly believe that is true?
But that’s not the reason I asked you here. I would like you to read something. Here is an article from Associated Content News entitled The Problem of the Historical Mohammed: Confronting Myths About the Life and Divinity of Mohammed. I’d like to hear your thoughts on it. The entire article is Here.
It’s long, but I still suggest you read it thoroughly. However, because I know that you won’t, I’m going to quote some bits of it for you in the hope that you can provide coherent and intelligent rebuttal. Or admit that it is correct. Whichever you like.
Quote: Consider for example the claim that Mohammed himself was a morally perfect, infallible quasi-divinity whose life we must dedicate ourselves to imitating. As such, the moral character he shows in the Koran has become the foundation for strictly theocratic authoritarianism throughout Anatolia and the Middle East. This has resulted in some unbelievably harsh treatment of supposed "immorality" in these nations, amounting to public executions, torture, and so on. Consider that until very recently in Pakistan, a woman had to be able to produce at least four witnesses in order to file a rape suit against a man (an impossible task 99% of the time), or she herself could be prosecuted for adultery. Why? Because that is the law as it appears in Islamic canon.
Have you ever bothered to learn who your prophet really was, mo3?
Quote: Famous Muslim-turned-atheist Ibn Warraq, author of the bestselling "Why I Am Not A Muslim" writes of the "ruthless fanaticism into which the teachings of the Prophet was fast drifting [3]" in the Medinan period. Another story, recounted by Ibn Ishaq, tells of one man who was tortured by having a fire on his chest kindled with flint and steel until near death, at which point Mohammed beheaded him and took his wife as a concubine [4]. The early Koran was silent on such military matters as torture, but the verses revealed after the meteoric rise of Islam as a viable military force amongst the tribes of the Arabian Peninsula offer a wealth of provisions for murder and massacre. The Hadith 5:59:32 [5] also tells of a charming incident in which Mohammed had as many as 900 unarmed POWs simply beheaded, and the women and children sold into slavery.
Your prophet was a blood-thirsty warlord.
Quote: Mohammed, whom the Koran refers to as the Prophet, is not an exception, the angry cries of heresy from the modern Muslim far-right establishment notwithstanding. In the Muslim world, mere depiction of this mortal man is a crime, as the Muslim establishment made so loudly clear following the revelation of the existence of some cartoons in the Netherlands depicting the Prophet. He has been deified in a way that transcends all reason; millions of people throughout the Muslim world actually invest in the enormous modern pantheon that is the Mohammed cult of personality.
Your prophet was not a god.
Quote: Make no mistake: Mohammed was something of a ladies man. Undisputed historical sources list no less than twelve wives, most of them concurrently, ranging in ages from 6 to 65, married for reasons ranging from cementing alliances with allies such as Abu Bakr, to simple lust, as in Aisha's case. Then there is the awkward historical fact that one of his wives, Maria al-Qibtiyya, an Egyptian slave, who, according to non-Muslim historical sources, became pregnant with the Prophet's son before they were married (the son, Ibrahim, did not live long after birth).
Your prophet was a ladies man. A bigamist pedophile ladies man.
Quote: Just as his vast career of lust starts picking up, God comes down just in time and tells Mohammed that he, and he ALONE, is exempt from laws regarding polygamy, as we read in the Koran 33:50 [2]. Later in that same Surah, we see that Mohammed's wives alone were forbidden from remarrying after his death (33:53), which is a little bit awkward because Mohammed married 10 widows. The personal motivation here is clear and obvious; why do so many Muslims just take it in stride that God's desire that Mohammed alone be exempt from polygamy be expressed right after Mohammed starts shacking up with all sorts of women in Medina?
Your prophet was a dictator and a liar.
Quote: One day in Mecca, Mohammed was reciting Surah 52 of the Koran (al-Najm), with his followers and scribes listening intently as always. At one point in this narrative, he said something that sounds a bit funny: "Have you thought of Allat and al-'Uzza and Manat the third, the other: These are the exalted Gharaniq, whose intercession is hoped for. [6]"
In short, Mohammed was on the record exhorting his followers to worship three pagan goddesses (Allat, al-Uzza, and Manat). How could this be? The Prophet is supposed to be infallible! Abu Bakr had all references to these verses, popularly known as the "Satanic Verses," deleted from the Koran after the Prophet's death, he himself abrogated it quickly from his recitation, and modern Islamic scholars offer all sorts of idiotic excuses for this obvious aberration of prophecy. Some say that Satan tempted and corrupted the Prophet into uttering these verses. Others say Mohammed didn't say them at all and that Satan simply took on the Prophet's voice to mislead his followers.
Your prophet was possessed by Satan.
Quote: For example, throughout the Muslim world it is simply a common understanding that Mohammed first began receiving the Koran after ascending to heaven on a magical, winged horse.
Your prophet was insane.
You said that you are Muslim, because you researched all of the alternatives and only believe that Islam is the truth. So, you already believed there was a god, read the ‘books’, and decided that the book you’d been indoctrinated to believe was the one truth. How surprising. What I want to know is, how can you believe that this blood-thirsty, murderous, womanizing, lying, crazy man was actually your god’s chosen mouthpiece? How can you believe that this tyrannical dictator should be the one and only role model for your entire way of life? How can you possibly believe that is true?
