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Intelligent Design
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 (January 13, 2016 at 7:56 pm)AAA Wrote: Why not? Because it is intelligent design, whereby people are attempting to mold science to their preconceived notions. That is not how science works.
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~ Erin Hunter  (January 13, 2016 at 7:56 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(January 13, 2016 at 7:46 pm)AAA Wrote: What magic? Is wireless electricity magic? It may seem like it to someone who doesn't understand it. Just because we don't know the mechanism of how it was designed (if we suppose it was) doesn't mean it doesn't have a rational explanation. I believe God is the designer. I also believe that God is understandable (or at least will be). It's not ignorance. It isn't "we can't explain it, so God" It is "we know of only one cause that is capable of explaining the specified sequences and other features of life and the universe, and that cause is intelligence." You are relying on faith to think that another cause will arise. (January 13, 2016 at 8:00 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:(January 13, 2016 at 7:56 pm)AAA Wrote: Why not? That's hardly the only thing I am presenting for intelligent design. So science must not be associated with God? (January 13, 2016 at 8:03 pm)AAA Wrote: That's hardly the only thing I am presenting for intelligent design. So science must not be associated with God? Not until you can adequately describe and present proof of god.
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January 13, 2016 at 8:07 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2016 at 8:07 pm by Mr.wizard.)
(January 13, 2016 at 8:03 pm)AAA Wrote:(January 13, 2016 at 8:00 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Because science is a method and the only thing you are presenting for intelligent design is "I believe god is the designer". No, really you presented nothing except you believe life is designed and god is the designer, Oh and you think life looks like a digital code. Where is the science? (January 13, 2016 at 8:00 pm)Kitan Wrote:(January 13, 2016 at 7:56 pm)AAA Wrote: Why not? And evolutionists don't do this? The theory has failed prediction after failed prediction, yet they will always mold the theory in distorted ways to try to account for the evidence. And intelligent design puts evidence first and conclusions after. Everyone has preconceived ideas about the world. Every single person. Even the scientists. It is science. You ought to read Signature in the Cell if you want to see why intelligent design is based on scientific grounds. RE: Intelligent Design
January 13, 2016 at 8:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2016 at 8:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Quote:You are relying on faith to think that another cause will arise. Moving on to the next page in the liars for christ handbook huh? You've failed to astonish us with your brilliance and have now devolved into a "you too" mud slinging match. Remind me why I need another explanation again...faith be damned, what with already having an explanation in evolution and physics? There isn't even a gap here to cram your god into..in the first place. Give it up.
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(January 13, 2016 at 8:08 pm)AAA Wrote: And evolutionists don't do this? No, which clearly shows how little you know of science and evolution.
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January 13, 2016 at 8:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2016 at 8:10 pm by Cyberman.)
(January 13, 2016 at 7:42 pm)AAA Wrote: You want me to explain how something can be outside time? I don't think I have an answer, but there are spacial and temporal dimensions. We 3D creatures can be outside of a 2D spacial realm. In a similar way, something could conceivably be outside of the temporal realm also. Not a great answer, but I don't see why it couldn't. Spatial, actually, not spacial; but never mind. That's not the main point I want to get at. Can this "something" affect anything within the temporal realm, however minor?
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