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RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 5:34 pm
(December 27, 2015 at 5:28 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I think his interpretation might be a little shaky. I don't really read it that way and it seems like a stretch. Also you have to remember that the old testament wouldn't give people instructions to convert anyone. The Jews don't want there to be more Jews and have never been into conversion. It takes away from the specialness of being the chosen people I guess.
I'd go to Phil Robertson for grooming and fashion tips before I'd seek his opinion about Biblical interpretation.
RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 6:04 pm
(December 27, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The word "Jew" in the bible refers to a nation, more specifically, to the descendants of the tribe of Judah.
The word "Jew" is derived from the Aramaic name for the Persian province (Yehud) and the term Yehudim for "Jews."
Quote:(Speaking of the Babylonian "Exile" and alleged "return," Finkelstein writes:
This is also the moment in history when we must change our terminology. The kingdom of Judah becomes Yehud - the Aramaic name of the province in the Persian Empire. - and the people of Judah, the Judahites, will henceforth be known as Yehudim, or Jews.
The Bible Unearthed - Page 297
BTW, sad to say for your stupid bullshit story, there is no archaeological evidence that there was anything particularly "jewish" about either Israel or Judah prior to the Persians bringing their ideas of monotheism ( Zoroastrianism) to the area. No. They were just Canaanites like all the others it seems.
Sucks to be you.
I wonder how long it's going to take you to realize that quote you posted corroborates exactly what I said....
RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 6:24 pm
You were prattling on about fucking Abraham and all sorts of other shit which exists only in your fairy story, moron. Persian rule dates to the late 6th century and that is when your "jewish" shit starts to evolve.
Quote:In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17), leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim (Jews), and that name continues to be used today.
Quote:In case you missed it, God made a covenant with Abraham, that his seed would become a great nation, so unless you can trace your lineage back to Abraham, you are not a Jew.
Revelation 2:9
Quote:I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Being related to Abraham is 1,000 times worse than being related to the devil himself. He had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 6:44 pm
(December 27, 2015 at 6:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(December 27, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The word "Jew" is derived from the Aramaic name for the Persian province (Yehud) and the term Yehudim for "Jews."
BTW, sad to say for your stupid bullshit story, there is no archaeological evidence that there was anything particularly "jewish" about either Israel or Judah prior to the Persians bringing their ideas of monotheism ( Zoroastrianism) to the area. No. They were just Canaanites like all the others it seems.
Sucks to be you.
I wonder how long it's going to take you to realize that quote you posted corroborates exactly what I said....
If you aren't a Jew why do you believe in the ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale?
RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 7:57 pm
(December 27, 2015 at 6:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You were prattling on about fucking Abraham and all sorts of other shit which exists only in your fairy story, moron. Persian rule dates to the late 6th century and that is when your "jewish" shit starts to evolve.
I know you can't handle that information.
Idiots never can.
Look you simpleton, whether or not YOU believe Abraham existed or not changes nothing. The point I was making is that the word "Jew" originally referred to an ethnic group, not a religion.... YOU CAN'T CONVERT TO AN ETHNICITY.
RE: Bible says convert or kill the nonbelievers too. Thumbs down for Christianity...
December 27, 2015 at 8:33 pm
No Huggy, you Missed Min's point and in your typical fashion attempt to use one narrow sense of a word in an effort to score a meaningless debate point while losing sight of what is actually being discussed. People can and do convert to Judaism thereby becoming Jews. You're simply wrong, get over it.