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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 4:47 am
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(February 6, 2016 at 3:39 am)Cato Wrote: Please Danny, explain how your Quixotic civil liberties rail against vpn legislation compares to your silence and tacit approval of Australian hate speech law. Which precisely is more of an abuse against civil liberties? Apparently in your book it's perfectly fine if the government limits your speech, but damn them if they become a minor inconvenience in your pursuit of digital connectivity. I'm looking forward to hearing how Americans are to blame.
With respect, that is in need of reform. The present government agrees with that. At least we don't ban and gaol people for holocaust denial. Everyone has the right to be an idiot in Australia if they choose.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 4:47 am
Every country in the world has their disgraceful sides, and none are perfect. No point in throwing shit at each other over it.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 4:54 am
Unfortunately I've never been outside the US, although I want to travel and visit Europe. The US is a very young country that grew fast to become the world superpower. Sure we have a lot of problems, and start a lot of wars, but realize the citizens are not in control. Our country was hijacked. I research a lot of corruption in this country, and yes it's true, we are responsible for a lot of crap, but have given the world a lot of things as well. For example Monsanto where they provide gmo products that kill the insects that eat it, but let you eat it haha. I hate Monsanto by the way, but our food supply has been tampered with.
"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."
U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller,
( founder of the Trilateral Commission),
in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission,
in June, 1991.
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)
"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support. "The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. "The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."
Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby, the New Generation
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952
" The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." -J. Edgar Hoover
"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite."
Senator William Jenner, 1954
"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind can exert a positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture. We believe a new order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of the old and the birth pangs of the new will be a testing time for the human species."
Richard A. Falk,
in an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the book On the Creation of a Just World Order (1975)
"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system ,they will rule the future."
U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater
in his l964 book: With No Apologies
"The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government."
Harpers, July l958
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
President-Elect George W. Bush
"There ought to be limits to freedom."
-Governor George W Bush, May 21, 1999
"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..."
Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)
"Terrorism is the war of the poor. War is the terrorism of the rich."
-Leon Uris, Trinity, a Novel of Ireland, 1976
"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?', Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as 'international bankers.' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...[and] seizes...our executive officers... legislative bodies... schools... courts... newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
-John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York 1918-1925
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
-Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), 32nd US President
"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
-Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809
"...those who formally rule take their signals and commands, not from the electorate as a body, but from a small group of men (plus a few women). This group will be called the Establishment. It exists even though that existence is stoutly denied; it is one of the secrets of the American social order. A second secret is the fact that the existence of the Establishment - the ruling class - is not supposed to be discussed."
-Arthur S. Miller, The Secret Constitution and The Need For Constitutional Change, Greenwood Press, New York, 1987, prologue, p. 3.
I've collected tons of these quotes over the years.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 4:59 am
I'm not sure bringing a tin foil hat to this thread was what the OP had in mind, scooby.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 5:03 am
(February 6, 2016 at 4:59 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: I'm not sure bringing a tin foil hat to this thread was what the OP had in mind, scooby.
The evidence is overwhelming our country has been hijacked by powerful interests who exploit the citizens for their own gain.
"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
-Aldous Huxley's lecture to The California Medical School in San Francisco in 1961
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 5:06 am
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Yeah, quoting out of context excerpts of random texts doesn't really qualify as 'evidence' mate.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 5:12 am
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Thanks Scoobs! You quickly turned the attention away from us Aussie yobbos! I owe you one mate.
Yeah, I agree with my mate Scoobydoo! (who I believe is an above average intelligence American). He's right you know, The illuminati are the lizard jews who control America!
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 5:17 am
(February 6, 2016 at 2:07 am)Cato Wrote: Be honest, if the Chinese suddenly wanted to invade Australia who are you going to call?
I'm sure he'll page Mother England ... who'll come through as she did in '42.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 5:26 am
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(February 6, 2016 at 5:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (February 6, 2016 at 2:07 am)Cato Wrote: Be honest, if the Chinese suddenly wanted to invade Australia who are you going to call?
I'm sure he'll page Mother England ... who'll come through as she did in '42.
A little late for that guys.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 5:27 am
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(February 6, 2016 at 5:12 am)ignoramus Wrote: Thanks Scoobs! You quickly turned the attention away from us Aussie yobbos! I owe you one mate.
Yeah, I agree with my mate Scoobydoo! (who I believe is an above average intelligence American). He's right you know, The illuminati are the lizard jews who control America!
You don't believe me? Tell them Scoobs...
Haha I'll avoid giving them a name, but my point is that the citizens don't have much say in what our military or government does around the world. Were pretty much just along for the ride on an out of control roller coaster. They first took over our banking system, and from there took the rest, and we are just a bunch of debt slaves. It officially happened in 1913 with the federal reserve act, which took the power of the bank away from congress, and gave it to the Federal Reserve which is independent of our government. They will not even allow congress to audit it. Don't get me wrong, I love this country, there is a lot of great things.
“The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world-no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men”.-President Woodrow Wilson
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."
Amschel Mayer Rothschild, 1773-1855
"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
James A. Garfield 20th President of the United States
A great documentary about the history of the US banking system is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrJGlXEs8nI
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