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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 6:04 pm
All I can think of right now is the character of Pirelli from Sweeney Todd and his "miracle" elixir. It's amazing how people still believe they can be healed by just a few words or some tonic created in a person's home.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 7:48 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 5:59 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (February 6, 2016 at 5:49 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:
^This^
Is it original?
Original to the person who first created the meme, I suppose
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm
She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 8:07 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 4:53 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I remember the creator of the TV series ER, the late Michael Crichton, an MD and a somewhat of a renaissance man, describing this woman's condition (or something similar) where a woman comes into his clinic and she is completely blind but not upset because she knows that her condition is temporary. Forgot what the condition is called.
Actually there are certain hysteric conditions, already described by Sigmund Freud, that can render you temporarily blind.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
The priest seems "convinced," or at least he says that he is.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 9:37 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 9:31 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
The priest seems "convinced," or at least he says that he is.
It doesn't matter if one priest is convinced, or even if 20 of them are. Officially approving a miracle claim as a Catholic Miracle is a long process that takes years of investigation. You can google about it if you'd like. This was by no means an approved Catholic Miracle. Far from it.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 9:41 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
I must say, that's a handy wee rule, innit? 'We are Catholics, and the only miracles are events WE say are miracles.' Neat as a pin, that is.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
And exactly how would "The church" know if it was a miracle?
If a magic god appeared in their midst and told them that it was a real miracle that a woman's eyes were healed by his god magic then the appearance of the magic god is just as big a miracle.
The real way they would decide it's veracity is to evaluate it's pro's and con's with their PR people..
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 9:53 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 9:41 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
I must say, that's a handy wee rule, innit? 'We are Catholics, and the only miracles are events WE say are miracles.' Neat as a pin, that is.
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It needs to be investigated and approved by the Vatican in order to be called an official Catholic Miracle. Otherwise it's just personal experience that cannot be corroborated.
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RE: Another fake Catholic miracle.
February 6, 2016 at 9:53 pm
(February 6, 2016 at 9:48 pm)Brakeman Wrote: (February 6, 2016 at 7:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: She may have been a Catholic woman, but a claimed miracle is not a "Catholic Miracle" until it has been investigated and officially proclaimed a miracle by the Church. This was not the case here.
And exactly how would "The church" know if it was a miracle?
If a magic god appeared in their midst and told them that it was a real miracle that a woman's eyes were healed by his god magic then the appearance of the magic god is just as big a miracle.
The real way they would decide it's veracity is to evaluate it's pro's and con's with their PR people..
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