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My views on objective morality
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 (March 10, 2016 at 1:03 am)Losty Wrote:(March 10, 2016 at 12:50 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I hope one day it will all click and you will understand. Insha'allah? Gotta love that movie! Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
This thread will be closed down, if the initial OP discussion is not discussed. Period, end of story. Now I've spent at least six to seven hours (A. Because I'm a slow reader and B. Because I like to get the full scope and be objective when it comes to issues like this), and I'd like to ask you guys to stop fighting about what did happen, and continue with the discussion at hand (sans CL for now). I do hope she returns, but that's up to her. I for one have a break down of everything that has been said, so far, and I will continue to observe what occurred and then confer with my fellow mods and admins on this matter. Anyone elses' opinion, in my opinion, can wait until we've come to our conclusions. For those of you who would like to continue investigating objective morality and perhaps posit some insight (I can and have thought of a million things you could offer CL to clarify what it is that you are saying), then please by all means do so in a manner that resembles the outstanding forum that we are. Sure, we are loose on our verbiage, and allow everyone the floor. My advice to you is not to take advantage of that, and stick to the topics at hand.
On a side note, dear lord this is a long long long thread to have to review post by post! While you all are spanking, I'm working my ass off! Don't make me regret my decision please. My goal is to rectify all sides, with our policies and procedures accordingly (if warranted) and make sure no one was unfairly treated. That is all. So many differing opinions, personalities, etc are naturally going to lead to discourse at some point. Take that into account, and move on. Or Tibs will close this thread!
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong. ![[Image: tumblr_n1j4lmACk61qchtw3o1_500.gif]](https://66.media.tumblr.com/5fb74c6d16622fb3dbb358509c9aec03/tumblr_n1j4lmACk61qchtw3o1_500.gif)
So, MK, since you're here. Wanna take another shot at explaining to me why it matters if there is an objective morality?
Also, I got CLs take on it but I'm not sure if you offered yours so I will ask you. I assume (please correct me if I'm wrong) that you believe objective morality comes from god. So, do you think you know exactly what is objectively good and what is objectively bad, or do you think that you cannot know for sure?  RE: My views on objective morality
March 10, 2016 at 1:39 am
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2016 at 1:39 am by Mystic.)
(March 10, 2016 at 1:36 am)Losty Wrote: So, MK, since you're here. Wanna take another shot at explaining to me why it matters if there is an objective morality? I will in a new topic (I will start it). Anything for the one you love. 
A new thread sounds refreshing, looking forward to it.
It's really late right now (past midnight), and I have to go somewhere early tomorrow.
Sweet dreams love. Tomorrow (if God permits) I will create that thread, and I hope I won't disappoint you.  (March 10, 2016 at 12:12 am)Losty Wrote:(March 10, 2016 at 12:09 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Lol, I'm so misunderstood! That was my way of saying I'm no gentleman, young lady. 
(March 10, 2016 at 1:03 am)Losty Wrote:(March 10, 2016 at 12:50 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I hope one day it will all click and you will understand. Insha'allah? .... yeeeeaaaaah.
Yep it's midnight I'm calling it a night.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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