Monkeying Around in the Garden of Eden

[madog]

If our conscious is the mirror of "gods" why don't we know what he knows? and if it can get bigger and bigger do we surpass "God"?

Good point for the inexperienced in the spirituality field but very obvious for the experienced.

According to yoga this physical universe is God's lila or the cosmic play.
Everything sprung out his cosmic mind so nothing is external to him but in this cosmic game part of his big consciousness become small (creation stage) into space, air, light, water and when it reach the bottom as the thought is turned into matter this stage sign or mark the beginning of evolution in order to bring back the thought into his mind.
Very strange for an atheist to believe but that is how according yoga the system works.

As evolution reach the stage of human then slowly slowly it become more and more clear that evolution
must reach a goal and that is to have this human consciousness to merge into the cosmic ocean of consciousness and to realize that we are God.

Obviously we know what God knows as we climb the stages of high consciousness and for achieving that it need a lot of hard work which again is part and parcel of God cosmic game.
As far as surpass God that question doesn't make any sense.
We have sprung out God mind so there is no other place to end up other than back into his mind.  

Lovely acrobatic wordplay ... but says nothing as to the question I ask?

If we are an image of God why do we not know everything he knows ....

Hint, if as you say we sprung out of God we wouldn't be an image of, but a part of .....

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Easily explained mate.

The clergy become so corrupted that in order to keep the chair of power and be intermediaries between
God and the people they needed to create the hell so people would be afraid and follow them without any questions.
 

If the clergy where so corrupted why did "God" let them maintain their "chair of power and be intermediaries between

God and the people" ?

[Little Rik]

Good point for the inexperienced in the spirituality field but very obvious for the experienced.

According to yoga this physical universe is God's lila or the cosmic play.
Everything sprung out his cosmic mind so nothing is external to him but in this cosmic game part of his big consciousness become small (creation stage) into space, air, light, water and when it reach the bottom as the thought is turned into matter this stage sign or mark the beginning of evolution in order to bring back the thought into his mind.
Very strange for an atheist to believe but that is how according yoga the system works.

As evolution reach the stage of human then slowly slowly it become more and more clear that evolution
must reach a goal and that is to have this human consciousness to merge into the cosmic ocean of consciousness and to realize that we are God.

Obviously we know what God knows as we climb the stages of high consciousness and for achieving that it need a lot of hard work which again is part and parcel of God cosmic game.
As far as surpass God that question doesn't make any sense.
We have sprung out God mind so there is no other place to end up other than back into his mind.  

Lovely acrobatic wordplay ... but says nothing as to the question I ask?

If we are an image of God why do we not know everything he knows ....

I would have thought that you would have understood my previous answer.
Never mind.
Explain once again (free tuition )
Evolution is all about getting back to where we originally come from.
This involve that the consciousness to be God doesn't pop up all of a sudden but by stages
that is why the awareness that we are God and know what God knows come in stages.
Evolution is all about climbing up from matter to veg. life to animal life to human life
to God stage.
Stages imply that the awareness of who we are doesn't come all of a sudden otherwise the lila or
God cosmic game wouldn't have sense.

Hint, if as you say we sprung out of God we wouldn't be an image of, but a part of .....

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When you dream you see an image of something but that image is the fruit of your imagination and therefore is part and parcel of you.
It is mental energy and energy and consciousness are the two sides of the same sheet.
So it is all you.
You create that image with your energy-consciousness and that belong to you.
Therefore there is no question of separation.
Capish?    

Easily explained mate.

The clergy become so corrupted that in order to keep the chair of power and be intermediaries between
God and the people they needed to create the hell so people would be afraid and follow them without any questions.
 

If the clergy where so corrupted why did "God" let them maintain their "chair of power and be intermediaries between God and the people" ?

When your little kids become men then you will have to let them do whatever they like to do in the good or the bad.
The karma law however will sort out all the problems that may occur and at the end everything will be ok.
However if those who do the wrong thing will have to go through tough times too bad for them.  
Some people are too stupid and learn only the hard way.  

[madog]

 

 

When you dream you see an image of something but that image is the fruit of your imagination and therefore is part and parcel of you.
 
 

Tempted to use one of your headbanging gifs LOL ....

Blocks of text won't hide that you are not answering my question ..... "If we are an image of God why do we not know everything he knows ...."

A dream is an image yes and yes it comes from our imagination .... but it is not an image of everything but just parts of what we know ... and does not come from God as your Bible claims ...

If our dream image was an image of everything I know it would  know everything I know ... 

Again I will give you a hint .... an image can be the whole or a part .... your bible claims we are an image of God, not a part of God ...

[Little Rik]

 

 

When you dream you see an image of something but that image is the fruit of your imagination and therefore is part and parcel of you.
 
 

Tempted to use one of your headbanging gifs LOL ....

Blocks of text won't hide that you are not answering my question ..... "If we are an image of God why do we not know everything he knows ...."

A dream is an image yes and yes it comes from our imagination .... but it is not an image of everything but just parts of what we know ... and does not come from God as your Bible claims ...

If our dream image was an image of everything I know it would  know everything I know ... 

Again I will give you a hint .... an image can be the whole or a part .... your bible claims we are an image of God, not a part of God ...

My bible?
When I ever said that dog?
Some of the things in the bible make sense other do not so I have no choice but to take only what make sense but let us deal with your confusion.
When you dream you only use part of your total energy-consciousness so you are not fully aware.
Full awareness only come when you do not dream or are in a slumber mental stage.

This create universe is therefore a reflexion of part of the whole consciousness of God because God originally energy-consciousness get less and less aware when imagine this cosmic game of creation.
How can we be 100% aware of God when this God' creation is not made of 100% God consciousness?

The image of God relate to our inner consciousness.
This is like a seed.
When the seed find a good soil to sprout then it will give birth to the original plant from which it originated.
In that plant there is the image of God but in the seed you can not see such an imagine.
Similarly you are a perfect image of God but to understand that you are you got to let the seed to sprout and become a plant.    

The pineal gland according to yoga is the seed or the third eye which reflex the image of God.

[Whateverist]

Tempted to use one of your headbanging gifs LOL ....

Blocks of text won't hide that you are not answering my question ..... "If we are an image of God why do we not know everything he knows ...."

A dream is an image yes and yes it comes from our imagination .... but it is not an image of everything but just parts of what we know ... and does not come from God as your Bible claims ...

If our dream image was an image of everything I know it would  know everything I know ... 

Again I will give you a hint .... an image can be the whole or a part .... your bible claims we are an image of God, not a part of God ...

My bible?
When I ever said that dog?
Some of the things in the bible make sense other do not so I have no choice but to take only what make sense but let us deal with your confusion.

Good call. If we started in on your's Rik we might be here all day.

[madog]

 

My bible?
 

Where do you get your God from then? did you just think him up, did someone tell you about him or did you find him in some other book or text written by stone/bronze age  semi-illiterates ?

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Note Rik it is pointless talking about being in the image of God until we ascertain which God we are talking about ....

[IATIA]

If LR is made in the image of god, does that mean god has not fluent control of the english language?

[Homeless Nutter]

Where do you get your God from then?[...]

Rik is a puppet of a sect of hinduism, called Ananda Marga. They were a pretty vicious bunch of lunatics, back in the day - connected to a number of terrorist activities in the 60's and 70's. But you can just call him a hindu - he loves it...

Also Rik is not particularly bright, uneducated (unless you count sectarian brainwashing) and bat-sh*t crazy, so he practically can't not believe in nonsense. Have fun poking him with a stick, but don't expect him to actually understand, or learn anything. He'll just keep splattering the same bullsh*t with smug self-satisfaction of an ignorant and declaring himself the winner of the debate.

[Thumpalumpacus]

If suffering is bad then it might mean that God is not loving.  Jesus suffered and it was good.

No shit. No wonder people call god the biggest psychopath ever.

 Jesus suffered and it was good.

Good? Why? If God wanted to forgive "our sins" committed by a man that (if you acknowledge evolution) never existed, why not just forgive and skip the sadomasochism of his son (or correctly himself)? I mean just look at yourself and where your religion has driven you to the point that you think that torture and murder are good.

Wait until you get to Drich, happily defending chattel slavery and rape.

These are the same Christians who a) assert that their faith imparts to them morality, and b) that they do not practice moral relativity.

Yeah -- I know.

Evolution does not demonstrate that Adam never existed.

No, but molecular biology clearly disproves any literal reading of Genesis.

The funny thing is, the more human science advances, the more allegorical human religious texts become. Puzzler, that.

[Aoi Magi]

@LR: Most of hinduism is pretty bullshit, though I admit they contain better fantasy and woo than the bible. So just as you are using Hinduism for the parts of bible that "don't make sense", what is your fallback for the parts in Hinduism that don't make sense? The quran?

You say that we are not entirely god's image but a part of god's awareness,right? Then god is just as evil... after all the junior gods like Indra and all are cousins/half-brothers to the demons and asuras, and all were created within one exhalation of Vishnu, in other words, part of his consciousness. Moreover, according to Hindu mythology, the demons would have been a lot less problematic if the gods didn't keep granting their wishes and giving them enough power to torture the humans, just so the deities could play hero. The avatars of the gods weren't much better than the demons. Either way, if we are talking about sin, then as per hindu mythology their gods are just as sinful.

Apart from that, the gods don't seem much knowledgeable either. Just look at their cosmology as per gita and other scriptures. I certainly don't hate the idea of a butter island floating on an ocean of honey or wine, but when you think an incarnation of god imparted those to prove the divine knowledge of reality, you have to wonder what they were smoking at that point, and what people are smoking now to believe those bs.