20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting

[ApeNotKillApe]

Go stick your head in a toilet and flush.

[rexbeccarox]

How 'bout you show the rest of the class how automobiles are manufactured to injure or kill? Until you can do that, I, for one, can't possibly take you seriously with that question.

That's kinda the point isn't it? Automobiles aren't designed to kill, actually it's quite the opposite, they are designed to adhere to strict safety regulations, yet they kill four times as many people as the thing that's actually designed to kill.

So use a little of that deductive reasoning and tell me which is the bigger problem?

In just two sentences, Huggy, you've twisted logic so many ways and in so many knots, I don't even know where to start.

You truly are an artist.

[Silver]

Actually, his logic is on point.

[Huggy Bear]

That's kinda the point isn't it? Automobiles aren't designed to kill, actually it's quite the opposite, they are designed to adhere to strict safety regulations, yet they kill four times as many people as the thing that's actually designed to kill.

So use a little of that deductive reasoning and tell me which is the bigger problem?

In just two sentences, Huggy, you've twisted logic so many ways and in so many knots, I don't even know where to start.

You truly are an artist.

I think the logic is pretty sound.

As I pointed out earlier, your logic is like 10 people dying from poison and 40 people dying from applesauce, yet you want to focus on the poison, because after all applesauce isn't meant to kill, right?

[MTL]

*facepalm*


FAR more people have cars, than guns.

FAR more people USE cars, than guns, on a DAILY basis.

Not to mention all the other things that are "statistically more likely to kill you" than being present at a mass-shooting.

72,000 small children are seriously injured or killed in lawnmower accidents, in America, every year.

Same reason:  a lot more people use lawnmowers, than guns, every day.

But cars and lawnmowers are used for primary purposes very different from the primary purpose a gun is used for.

And by and large, despite the huge number of people injured or killed by cars and lawnmowers,
far, far, far many more people are safely transported by cars, than killed by them, every day,
and far, far many more lawns are safely mown by lawnmowers, every day,
than are children hurt by lawnmowers.

I think your own testicles are statistically more likely to kill you with cancer, than a bullet, is.


Maybe you should cut them off.

[rexbeccarox]

Actually, his logic is on point.

No... it's really not. People don't generally drive automobiles with the intent to injure or kill with them. Accidents happening is an unfortunate side effect that happens at a lower and lower rate as safety and security features improve. On top of that, gun deaths are on the rise, sometimes accidentally, and often intentionally.

On top of that, according to the CDC, guns are more likely to kill, so his "four times more likely" snippet is a blatant lie.

Here are a couple more links:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...n-the-u-s/

http://www.economist.com/news/united-sta...-v-bullets

[rexbeccarox]

In just two sentences, Huggy, you've twisted logic so many ways and in so many knots, I don't even know where to start.

You truly are an artist.

I think the logic is pretty sound.

As I pointed out earlier, your logic is like 10 people dying from poison and 40 people dying from applesauce, yet you want to focus on the poison, because after all applesauce isn't meant to kill, right?

Holy. Fuck. Now you've added a strawman to your portrait. Nice.

[Losty]

MTL is here Wut.

Heya MTL. Where ya been?

[Rev. Rye]

Dozens dead in Orlando, Florida. Where's Dexter Morgan when you need him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3XmjQySbL0

Okay, I'll give you that. Then again, he only killed serial killers, not mass murderers. And, believe me, there is a difference.

[Tiberius]

As an attempt to try and get both sides to agree on something, can we at least agree that there is a problem with gun crime in this country which doesn't happen in other countries?

Plenty of Scandinavian countries have high gun ownership, but low gun crime. This suggests to me that some balance can be made where guns aren't banned outright, but gun crime is reduced.

So, what solutions would people suggest that don't explicitly violate the 2nd amendment?