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Winter solstice
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RE: Winter solstice
(August 14, 2010 at 10:36 am)theophilus Wrote: The problem is that evolution is taught as if it is a proven fact and all the scientific evidence against it is ignored.

No, it's taught as if it's scientific fact, not proven fact. Science doesn't deal with proof. There is a motherload of scientific evidence for evolution so the fact it's not "proven" is no biggie. No science is proven.

(August 14, 2010 at 11:48 am)theophilus Wrote: This is one of the reasons we don't hear much about the evidence against evolution. Papers must be peer reviewed before they can be published and the peers who are doing the reviewing all believe in evolution.
So in other words, those who believe in evolution are soundly backed up with evidence and peer-reviewed whilst creationists don't have evidence and don't peer-review? Can't say I'm surprised.
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#12
RE: Winter solstice
(August 14, 2010 at 12:03 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: Oh pls. You have clearly never worked is science. It is an ultra competitive field. Most scientists can't wait to get one over on the competition, prove them wrong, discover something new, get more funding. It is very far from a conspiracy, but it suits your argument to make out that it is. Science has advanced our civilisation to unprecedented levels of success in understanding our world and applying the results. Peer reviewing is the process by which we filter the respectable views out from those lacking any evidence. Behe in the Dover trial had to admit that for ID to be taught in schools the definition of science would include alchemy, astrology, crystal healing and any other new age mumbo jumbo. Read the transcript of the judge, it's fascinating stuff and whilst the judge has a similar religious view to you he condemns the scurrilous fundie attempts to discredit evolution and paint it's advocates as some kind of conspirisists who keep the 'real' truth away from folks. Start thinking for yourself and drop extremism and being a mouth piece for liars. In your religion it is a sin to bear false witness and you are doing exactly that.

So you mean to say that you do work in this field and are an expert on scientific review. I personally know a scientist that has not been allowed to publish his work because it contradicts the established view of evolution. The reason scientist do not go against evolution is because it can be a career ending move and they care more about their money than they do telling what they see as the truth. The money grants are for those who are in the main stream whether the main stream is correct or incorrect. It's as simple as this, if I wanted a grant to study the eating habits of a squirrel most likely I would not recieve a grant however if I included in my application for the grant that I wanted to see what effect global warming had on the squirrels feeding habits money would come my way and I could conduct my study and keep on going as a scientist and making a good living. Yes I got the money I wanted but under fasle pretense because I might not have the same view about global warming as the mainstream scientist that would review my work have. So to do what I wanted to do in the first place I had to falsify my beliefs on global warming to be able to do my scientific study.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#13
RE: Winter solstice
Quote:I personally know a scientist that has not been allowed to publish his work because it contradicts the established view of evolution.

By "not allowed" I presume you mean that no reputable journal will publish such obvious garbage? UNlike religious shitwits, professional journals have "standards."
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#14
RE: Winter solstice
@godschild. You have found us out. It's a conspiracy amongst scientists to de throne god (the christian one of course) and install Satan. We are infact lizards and also faked the moon landings. Our main weapons are the lies we spin about evolution, cosmology and quantum physics hoping to convert your children to satanism and away from the one true faith.

Sometimes we eat babies, we planted fossils in rocks and we also pretended that the lights from stars started it's journey billions of years ago by shining our torches from our space ships. It's a pity you uncovered our masterplan, you and the likes of ted haggard, ray comfort and Kent hovind have called us out. There brilliant theories have exposed the lies of evolution, it's so obvious the human body was designed. I mean who wouldn't put human entertainment centres next to human sewage works.
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#15
RE: Winter solstice
(August 16, 2010 at 6:08 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: @godschild. You have found us out. It's a conspiracy amongst scientists to de throne god (the christian one of course) and install Satan. We are infact lizards and also faked the moon landings. Our main weapons are the lies we spin about evolution, cosmology and quantum physics hoping to convert your children to satanism and away from the one true faith.

Sometimes we eat babies, we planted fossils in rocks and we also pretended that the lights from stars started it's journey billions of years ago by shining our torches from our space ships. It's a pity you uncovered our masterplan, you and the likes of ted haggard, ray comfort and Kent hovind have called us out. There brilliant theories have exposed the lies of evolution, it's so obvious the human body was designed. I mean who wouldn't put human entertainment centres next to human sewage works.

Deserved more than just a Kudos!!!

ROFLOL

Luv ya work Captn Scarlet!!Angel Cloud
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RE: Winter solstice
(August 16, 2010 at 2:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I personally know a scientist that has not been allowed to publish his work because it contradicts the established view of evolution.

By "not allowed" I presume you mean that no reputable journal will publish such obvious garbage? UNlike religious shitwits, professional journals have "standards."
That is right and one of their standards is the belief that evolution is true.


His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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#17
RE: Winter solstice
Because evolutionary theory has been shown time and again to be correct in experiments and if your friend wants to publish religious bullshit then he should write to a fucking church and not try to pretend that his invisible sky-daddy is real without EVIDENCE.

Get it now?


(Probably not.)
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#18
RE: Winter solstice
(August 17, 2010 at 1:01 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(August 16, 2010 at 2:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I personally know a scientist that has not been allowed to publish his work because it contradicts the established view of evolution.

By "not allowed" I presume you mean that no reputable journal will publish such obvious garbage? UNlike religious shitwits, professional journals have "standards."
That is right and one of their standards is the belief that evolution is true.

You don't think evolution is true then? Do you have an alternative theory or do you remain to be convinced?
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#19
RE: Winter solstice
Oh brother, C-S. You just opened the door to pages of cut and paste horseshit from his pals at answersingenesis.

Beware the oncoming bullshit tsunami.
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#20
RE: Winter solstice
(August 17, 2010 at 1:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh brother, C-S. You just opened the door to pages of cut and paste horseshit from his pals at answersingenesis.

Beware the oncoming bullshit tsunami.
Absolutely. I wanted to demonstrate that there is no god. If there were one he would save me from the suffering that is coming my way. Even god must find fundie bs too much.
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