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[m0nk3y]

25.

Male.

England.

u?

[Excited Penguin]

That's great. Problem doing it live? I'll start a thread asap, we can discuss.

I do not.  There are some things that I choose to ask behind closed doors, for discretion and such.

That's fine. I'm ok with that. I'll PM you now.

[Jenny A]

The universe and humanity are equal, their only difference is age.

Equal in what way? How do you define equal?

The human mind can comprehend the universe, as humans are a universal species.

What do you mean by "a universal species"? And do you really think people understand the universe?

To think, we need a heartbeat; to survive, we need numerous things.

So?

Humanity is an entirety of numerous things, and the universe is an entirety of numerous things.

And so is everything else. And humanity is entirely made up of parts of the universe. SO?

The cohesive human communicates with the entirety of the universe.

No human communicates with the universe. The universe is not sentient and can't be communicated with.

Communication is between the cohesive human and the cohesive universe.

Obviously you are using some strange new definitions of cohesive and communication, because otherwise it's just word salad.

All factors that sum up to the cohesive human communicate.

More word salad.

The heart communicates to the universe, the mind communicates to the universe, and the human communicates to the universe (all other factors included).

Hearts pump blood, the universe is inanimate. Neither communicates.

Communication is of the numerous factors that sum up to the cohesive human, who communicates as the product of these numerous factors.

Nonsense is of the numerous factors that sum up to the inane human, who attempts to communicate as a product of factors.

[PETE_ROSE]

25.

Male.

England.

u?

Other side of 40.

Lived in England from '88 to '92.

Man.

[LostLocke]

I would like to discuss or debate the idea that "the cohesive human and the cohesive universe communicate".

That's the original premise?
OK, to start with so we know what you're talking about, give us an example of a communication between a human and the universe.

[Aegon]

Ok

What's the basis behind your disagreement?

The very first sentence makes no sense.

[Jenny A]

I would like to discuss or debate the idea that "the cohesive human and the cohesive universe communicate".

Cohesive means being closely united or causing people to be closely united. The universe is not closely united, and it does not cause people to be closely united. Being a person who unites other people would not aide in communicating with everything including non sentient things at once.

What is it that you actually mean?

[m0nk3y]

The universe and humanity are equal, their only difference is age.

 Equal in what way?  How do you define equal?

The human mind can comprehend the universe, as humans are a universal species.

What do you mean by "a universal species"?  And do you really think people understand the universe?

To think, we need a heartbeat; to survive, we need numerous things.

So?

Humanity is an entirety of numerous things, and the universe is an entirety of numerous things.

And so is everything else. And humanity is entirely made up of parts of the universe. SO?

The cohesive human communicates with the entirety of the universe.

No human communicates with the universe. The universe is not sentient and can't be communicated with.

Communication is between the cohesive human and the cohesive universe.

Obviously you are using some strange new definitions of cohesive and communication, because otherwise it's just word salad.

All factors that sum up to the cohesive human communicate.

More word salad.

The heart communicates to the universe, the mind communicates to the universe, and the human communicates to the universe (all other factors included).

Hearts pump blood, the universe is inanimate.  Neither communicates.

Communication is of the numerous factors that sum up to the cohesive human, who communicates as the product of these numerous factors.

Nonsense is of the numerous factors that sum up to the inane human, who attempts to communicate  as a product of factors.

I will avoid answering to all your response, as you have dissected the original post and replied line by line, rather than a proper response to all of it.

The words used are of their proper definition, so, equal means equal.

If you're confused by the semantics of the sentence, "humanity and the universe are equal", following is an explanation...

A human and the universe, are equal, because they are both universal specimen. I explained in the original post that a human is composed of numerous things, and is the cohesive being of these things together (the same as the universe); and this is what's meant by 'universal specimen' - both humans and the universe share a 'universal' nature.

I'm afraid the rest of your response is lacking substance.

For example, you said, 'so?', to, 'to think, we need a heartbeat; to survive, we need numerous things.', but this is logic that supports the rest of the content (you had abstracted the original post by dissecting it, so no paragraph supports the other paragraphs).

Given we need a heartbeat to produce a thought, then the cohesive human's communication with the universe, is non-singular; it takes multiple factors.

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I would like to discuss or debate the idea that "the cohesive human and the cohesive universe communicate".

Cohesive means being closely united or  causing people to be closely united.  The universe is not closely united, and it does not cause people to be closely united.  Being a person who unites other people would not aide in communicating with everything including non sentient things at once.

What is it that you actually mean?

cohesion
kə(ʊ)ˈhiːʒ(ə)n/
noun

1. the action or fact of forming a united whole.
   

[brewer]

OP, this is grandiose nonsense. It appears that you feel a self importance that is not deserved. If deserved what you believe your position is you would be responding to the others posts instead of acting like that would be beneath you to respond.

This tells me that you are not as smart as you think you are.

[PETE_ROSE]

Where is Minimalist and his flamethrower when you need him? Somebody go wake him up from his nap please.