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What motivates theists to come here?
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RE: What motivates theists to come here?
(August 13, 2016 at 8:16 am)purplepurpose Wrote:
(August 13, 2016 at 8:10 am)robvalue Wrote: You said you're a theist. Why do you come here?

Ideas testing. Now I see that people wish for permanent death, EVEN if there indeed a God who would offer immortality for his loyal servants.

Would you care to comment on the rest of my question from the OP, with regard to this goal?
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#22
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
(August 13, 2016 at 8:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 13, 2016 at 8:16 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Ideas testing. Now I see that people wish for permanent death, EVEN if there indeed a God who would offer immortality for his loyal servants.

That strikes me as somewhat off the mark.  Atheists (as atheists) don't exactly wish for permanent death.  We simply accept it as the inevitable result of being alive.  We reject the notion of immortality as a fairy story dreamed up by people who aren't prepared to accept the realities of basic physics and biology.

That being said, there is a POV in which  ALL living things are, in a sense, immortal - Sagan's 'star stuff'.  Every atom and subatomic particle of your being is coeval with the instantiation of the universe - the bits that make you 'you' are either original atoms, or the products of these original atoms.  The oxygen molecules that keep you going have been breathed by uncountable trillions of organisms that existed before you came along, and the decay that will occur after your death with become part of trillions more individual organism, and this happy state will continue at least until the heat death of the universe.

 In that sense - and that sense only - is the concept of immortality in any wise coherent.

Boru

Imagine. God in afterlife gives you two options:

1. Become his servant and start endure the pain of caring for others in your next afterlife.

2. Choose permanent death.

Theoretically, what would you choose?
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#23
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
(August 13, 2016 at 8:57 am)robvalue Wrote:
(August 13, 2016 at 8:16 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Ideas testing. Now I see that people wish for permanent death, EVEN if there indeed a God who would offer immortality for his loyal servants.

Would you care to comment on the rest of my question from the OP, with regard to this goal?

Religion portrays a state of non belief as a sickness that needs to be cured. And its a noble thing to preach the "path of sacrifice" to evade hell. Fear of hell is behind preaching. So, to ease the fears you do the preaching or Gods will.
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#24
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
That doesn't answer the question at all but we've been through this dance before, so I will leave it.
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#25
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
Theists come here for the same reason that everyone else does: to gaze at the awesomeness that is my turtle butt.
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#26
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
Okay, that makes sense I guess. I did wonder what some of them were getting out of it.
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What motivates theists to come here?
(August 13, 2016 at 9:09 am)purplepurpose Wrote:
(August 13, 2016 at 8:57 am)robvalue Wrote: Would you care to comment on the rest of my question from the OP, with regard to this goal?

Religion portrays a state of non belief as a sickness that needs to be cured. And its a noble thing to preach the "path of sacrifice" to evade hell. Fear of hell is behind preaching. So, to ease the fears you do the preaching or Gods will.


You didn't answer any of the questions...

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#28
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
I smell scum.

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#29
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
(August 13, 2016 at 9:09 am)purplepurpose Wrote:
(August 13, 2016 at 8:57 am)robvalue Wrote: Would you care to comment on the rest of my question from the OP, with regard to this goal?

Religion portrays a state of non belief as a sickness that needs to be cured. And its a noble thing to preach the "path of sacrifice" to evade hell. Fear of hell is behind preaching. So, to ease the fears you do the preaching or Gods will.


I wonder if you can admit that like we atheists you can not be certain of any alternate reality beyond what we experience in these bodies?  You say "religion teaches" but why do you suppose there is or ever was a human being that knew any more than you do on the subject?  

I myself am simply skeptical that any human being is privy to 'special' intel regarding what happens after death.  By all appearances, what lives dies and that is the end of them.  You essentially believe that someone in the past recorded miraculous things and wrote down the good news for all to believe.  I simply don't believe there is or ever was anyone living who was in any better a position than myself to know what can not be directly verified by ordinary means.

So try not to worry too much about my eventual date in hell.  I have no reason to worry and all you have is your unsupportable decision to believe the 'good news' written down by what you hope were people in the know.  Go on believing if you like but try not to project your reality onto those of us engaging the world on its own terms without an authoritarian overlay.
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#30
RE: What motivates theists to come here?
Judging by the way most of them do it I'd say there is a strong masochistic streak in them.
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