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Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
#51
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 28, 2016 at 7:39 pm)Stimbo Wrote: To everyone else: I'm going away for a while. Please don't kick my front door in.

Be well, my friend.

Boru
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#52
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 28, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: To those that prefer annihilation, I'm sure that must be horrifying.

Beliefs aren't determined by preference. Not by people who hold their beliefs accountable to standards more rigorous than wishful thinking.
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#53
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 28, 2016 at 8:06 pm)Gemini Wrote:
(August 28, 2016 at 2:56 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: To those that prefer annihilation, I'm sure that must be horrifying.

Beliefs aren't determined by preference. Not by people who hold their beliefs accountable to standards more rigorous than wishful thinking.

Yeah, I go by personal experience and plausibility of universal order worked out on my own, with ample support after the fact from multiple religious stories/views and current scientific evidence. I prefer beliefs that are logical, predictive and backed up by evidence and I have already slain many previous beliefs. Such is the work of growing and pruning one's soul.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#54
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
The beliefs you've described thusfar don't sound particularly logical, predictive, evidenced based, or scientific.  They do sound like run of the mill new-age reconstructionism.

In just -this- thread, you've expressed a belief that poor diet is the root cause of depression..which no amount of self help, drugs, or therapy can fix....and that you can fly, ffs.
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#55
Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
Hey, Ark! What do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#56
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 28, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The beliefs you've described thusfar don't sound particularly logical, predictive, evidenced based, or scientific.  They do sound like run of the mill new-age reconstructionism.

In just -this- thread, you've expressed a belief that poor diet is the root cause of depression..which no amount of self help, drugs, or therapy can fix....and that you can fly, ffs.

Label it what ever you like. It was personal experience, not something I read or heard.

Nice misrepresentation. I posted that change of diet and gut biome can help depression where drugs cannot because they do not replace gut bacteria. I even linked an article from medical doctors that specifically say antibiotics that kill gut bacteria indiscriminately can have an adverse affect on mood and well being.

What ever you want to stick in yourself man, you have to live with it. I'm sure you can live a healthy and satisfying life on Doritos seeing as diet has absolutely nothing to do with your sense of well being.

(August 28, 2016 at 8:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Hey, Ark!  What do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?

Not at all! =)

Professional arborist for 16 years specializing in climbing, rigging and trimming. My job is life and death physics with little to no room for error, for several sustained hours most days of the week. I co-own the business with my wife and I run a 3-5 person crew. If I'm not playing human wrecking ball in the trees, I'm stuffing a chipper that will eat a 10 inch log just as soon as it would eat me.

Tree work switches place with commercial fishing from time to time as the job most likely to kill you based on fatalities per year.

I do some rock and wood carving on the side for fun.

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"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#57
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 28, 2016 at 9:07 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Label it what ever you like. It was personal experience, not something I read or heard.
To pretend, now...after all the time you've spent telling us what various mytholgies really meant...and the details of your little midnight flight - across many threads....that you were unfamiliar with the narratives you've been parroting is yet another thing I find difficult to believe.

Quote:Nice misrepresentation.  I posted that change of diet and gut biome can help depression where drugs cannot because they do not replace gut bacteria. I even linked an article from medical doctors that specifically say antibiotics that kill gut bacteria indiscriminately can have an adverse affect on mood and well being.
This is what you posted......page 1, post 2.......

Quote:If this rain-forest-like choir of living organisms is the background state of your mental experience, then no amount of self help, drugs, therapy etc will ever affect the root cause of depression, which is the crap diet most people "live" on and the hard core scavengers and predators in their gut that eek out an existence on refined sugars and nutrient-less process garbage full of chemical preservatives.
..either you were misrepresenting -yourself- then..or you are misrepresenting -yourself- now.  Either way, you can probably leave me out of that, huh?

Quote:What ever you want to stick in yourself man, you have to live with it. I'm sure you can live a healthy and satisfying life on Doritos seeing as diet has absolutely nothing to do with your sense of well being.
............................?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#58
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 8:56 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: A New Direction for Treatment-Resistant Depression

http://www.jwatch.org/na42035/2016/08/23...depression

Can't access it. It says you need to subscribe and I'm not gonna pay for that. Can you write a brief description? Sorry if you already have, I'm still on the first page of this thread.
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#59
Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 28, 2016 at 9:07 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 28, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The beliefs you've described thusfar don't sound particularly logical, predictive, evidenced based, or scientific.  They do sound like run of the mill new-age reconstructionism.

In just -this- thread, you've expressed a belief that poor diet is the root cause of depression..which no amount of self help, drugs, or therapy can fix....and that you can fly, ffs.

Label it what ever you like. It was personal experience, not something I read or heard.

Nice misrepresentation. I posted that change of diet and gut biome can help depression where drugs cannot because they do not replace gut bacteria. I even linked an article from medical doctors that specifically say antibiotics that kill gut bacteria indiscriminately can have an adverse affect on mood and well being.

What ever you want to stick in yourself man, you have to live with it. I'm sure you can live a healthy and satisfying life on Doritos seeing as diet has absolutely nothing to do with your sense of well being.

(August 28, 2016 at 8:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Hey, Ark!  What do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?

Not at all! =)

Professional arborist for 16 years specializing in climbing, rigging and trimming. My job is life and death physics with little to no room for error, for several sustained hours most days of the week. I co-own the business with my wife and I run a 3-5 person crew. If I'm not playing human wrecking ball in the trees, I'm stuffing a chipper that will eat a 10 inch log just as soon as it would eat me.

Tree work switches place with commercial fishing from time to time as the job most likely to kill you based on fatalities per year.

I do some rock and wood carving on the side for fun.

[Image: tiki_005.jpg]


Okay...so you're NOT a dietitian then? Because, I can see how a layperson may be confused considering how you've posted about the subject in this thread.

Please, only dispense nutritional recommendations once you have completed the required education and professional training to do so. Otherwise, I'm going to start telling people how to cut down trees and you, as the professional, can let me know what you think about me doing that. Yeah?

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Also...I like your tree carving; it's pretty awesome.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
Not only is he not a dietitian, he's not a psychiatrist/psychologist, either. That's the M.O. of your typical woo-peddler, though. Claims to have knowledge outside of the mainstream, has no qualifications to back it up. It'd be funny if it wasn't dangerous.

For a good laugh, the next time I see my psychiatrist, I'm going to tell her that I found out on the internet that my problem the whole time has been that I haven't been eating correctly and watch her laugh in my face.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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