I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[chimp3]

102 pages ! Amazing.

[Cyberman]

I've just come to a startling realisation, mariosep is V'Ger!

He wants to mate with his creator?

That's... actually rather disturbing.

[Tonus]

I guess he took Min's tag line to heart.

[Mariosep]

Dear readers here, please forbear with me: I am a theist, so I will say a word of thanks to God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

"Dear God, thank You that I am still here in Atheistforums.org."

Now, dear readers, do you notice that as now I have presented again my proof from evidence for the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, the atheist colleagues here have not presented any reactions at all of some worth in intellectual terms.

But it is still too early.

I will just reproduce my proof in the ANNEX below.

I am like the operator of a coffee-shop, and you readers are frequenting my business everyday, so also with the atheists here.

As I am concerned to keep you dear readers profiting from my thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, all in re God exists or not, but please I am not into any proselytizing campaign on you, I will try to present everyday some thought from my stock knowledge for you to ruminate on, so as to enrich your stock knowledge also.

Now, this morning I like to bring to your consideration, how we know existence, as in we and you exist in objective reality outside of our mind, so that should we be without a mind as when we are in total anesthesia, or in total comatose condition, or in a deep dreamless sleep, or of course when we are dead. existence is still in objective reality, true to my insight that:

"The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence."

So. let us ask ourselves, how do we know existence?

Here, and I invite you to think on it, namely:

We know existence from our experience of existence.

Try this experiment: with your spouse or sweetheart or friend, first from both sides each one of you touch your nose, and then touch the nose of the other party; there, as simple as that, you have just proved to yourselves from your experience based evidence that your nose exists, that is one instance of the default status of things in the totality of reality, which is existence.

From there you can infer to your each other's existence as a living and thinking and experiencing entity; and yes, from that point onward to infer further to the existence of God, on experience based evidence, God in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

See, it is so simple, from existence of your nose all the way to the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

Now, let us sit back and witness how our atheist colleagues here will react, most probably or certainly, they will again fill up their quota of irrelevancies, but not daring to think on my proof of God existing: as to contribute some thoughts that are worthy of being included in the database for mankind, namely, our knowledge founded on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

ANNEX

RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
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Okay, dear atheist colleagues here, let us go together into my proof for God existing, so that you will already stop with complaining that I have not proven God exists.

But you see, the trouble in talking with atheists is that you atheists don't care to first work with me together on the meanings of words used, like for example, what is evidence.

Anyway, here goes.

My proof is essentially founded on the evidence in the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence.


1. In the totality of reality which is existence we you and I know about babies, and the nose in our face.

2. Babies and nose in our face do not create themselves.

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3. So they need a creator to bring them to the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence.

4. As they babies and nose do exist in the totality of reality which is existence, it follows that a creator first and ultimately created them.

5. There, babies and nose are two instances of evidence for the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

6. That is the proof from evidence for God existing, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


So, you do comprehend with the above steps Nos. 1 to 6, that I have proven the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
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So, let us all dear readers here sit back and await with bated breath for the comments of atheists on my proof for God existing.

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And please, dear atheists, no more complaining that I have not proven God exists, first and foremost in concept as the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

[Jesster]

This guy is still trying? I don't think anyone is reading his drivel at this point. Let's see how many more pages this can go on, though.

[Cyberman]

He tries, but sadly...

[Mister Agenda]

This one's used up. Can we get another?

[downbeatplumb]

Has he given this proof of god yet?

[Mariosep]

Thanks, readers, you have just added some 50 readers to my previous count earlier this morning; so, there are readers coming on and on to read my thread - thanks!

Now, as my previous post has already the recopy of my proof for its Annex, I will not anymore post my proof in this message.

I will just tell you, dear readers, if you care to, you can already collect all my posts here, go to , and you will have all my posts, and thus collect them all and set them up as an encyclopedia of thinking on God exists or not, the affirmative voice.

I was talking about how to prove that there is existence, by telling you that the proof of existence is based on experience of the nose in our face, by touching it your nose and the nose of your family members, friends, etc., all everyone touching their own nose and the nose of everyone else, there that is the evidence founded on experience of the existence of the nose, one instance of the default status of things in the totality of reality which is existence.

Now, I want to propose to you this difficulty, namely:

We prove existence to be the default status of things in the totality of reality, from experience of reality as with the nose in our face, and with a lot of previous posts, of evidence from experience, like babies!

Now, how do we prove the existence of experience?

Because some smart or self-smart atheist might come forth with so shallow a mind as to question that there is circular reasoning, namely, we prove existence from experience, but how do we prove experience, from existence?

Think about that, and tomorrow I will propose to you that the smart, self-smart but altogether shallow completely pseudo thinker, is again into talking all in his mind without ever coming into the existence of objective reality, like the nose in our face, and babies!

See you readers again tomorrow, and welcome to my coffee-shop of a thread in here Atheistforums.org - thanks to you founders, and owners, and operators of this most fairhanded forum.

Oh, I almost forget, don’t you see again that atheists are into pure irrelevancies with their posts, they are totally doomed when it comes to genuine, serious, pure substance thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

When you read a lot of socalled explanation for no God existing, they are into just vacuous analogies to the insult of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

Recently I read an atheist expounding on ten things why he became an atheist, or why atheists are more rational than theists, and here is one of them:

It goes like this: “Atheists are not angry at God (just as they are not angry at the Tooth Fairy) . . . ”

Or this one: “Calling atheism a religion is like calling baldness a hair color.”

Notice that in this one above, it has nothing to do with God, but with religion – that is always the trouble with them atheists, no capability for mental subtlety, the distinction between God and religion.

Now. who have baldness for a hair color, atheists or people with a religion – paging Wikipedia, time for Wiki to step in for its job with disambiguation.

Tomorrow again, dear readers.

By the way, if you just google the two examples of atheists availing themselves for their vacuity of empty analogy clichés in place of solid substance thinking, try entering these words into google search box: God atheists tooth fairy religion baldness hair color.

Tomorrow again, come to my coffee-shop!

[Jesster]

It's funny how he thinks he's actually accomplishing something.