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How science works
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RE: How science works
(August 30, 2010 at 7:04 pm)Scarface Wrote: Sounds rather primitive.

The most profound things in the universe are often the simplest, but ultimately the science is done simply by that process or at least one similar to it if my off-the-cuff statement above is off.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
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RE: How science works
(August 30, 2010 at 5:44 pm)Scarface Wrote: I wouldn't be asking if I had. Duh. So much for your observation skills, Einstein.

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(August 30, 2010 at 7:04 pm)Scarface Wrote: Sounds rather primitive.

The simplest methods often work. At least like this we don't have to make shit up, you know like Christianity, Islam...etc...
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#23
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Please, let's not kid ourselves. The scientific "community" is riddled with corruption and bribery, and it goes all the way to the top of the food chain.
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#24
RE: How science works
Some of it is, most of it isn't. When you have multiple scientists verifying results, corruption gets revealed very quickly. See the case of the South Korean cloning expert: Hwang_Woo-Suk. His career lies in tatter because science works, and it revealed he had lied about his results.
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RE: How science works
(August 31, 2010 at 7:50 am)Scarface Wrote: Please, let's not kid ourselves. The religious "community" is riddled with corruption and bribery, and it goes all the way to the top of the food chain.

There, fixed it for you mateBig Grin
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RE: How science works
(August 31, 2010 at 7:50 am)Scarface Wrote: Please, let's not kid ourselves. The scientific "community" is riddled with corruption and bribery, and it goes all the way to the top of the food chain.

We've been duped. The world is really flat after all...
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#27
RE: How science works
Actually, I did mean the scientific community. What is research funding based on? Political agendas. Who gets the funding? Those who promise to deliver the "desired" results. It happens every day of the week at all levels. The entire structure is designed to operate that way.
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RE: How science works
Actually, research funding comes from various sources. The research done reflects *reality*, not the whims of the person with the money. There is no promise of "desired" results; only the promise of some kind of result. A person may have a hypothesis about something, and may get funding from someone who thinks the hypothesis is correct, but if it is wrong, then it is wrong. The results still get published.

You have completely misunderstood what science is about.
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#29
RE: How science works
No I haven't. It's corrupt from top to bottom. Your link illustrates that.
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RE: How science works
(August 31, 2010 at 8:36 am)Entropist Wrote:
(August 31, 2010 at 7:50 am)Scarface Wrote: Please, let's not kid ourselves. The scientific "community" is riddled with corruption and bribery, and it goes all the way to the top of the food chain.

We've been duped. The world is really flat after all...

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