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The Devil
#21
RE: The Devil
Worked for Joe Smith . . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#22
RE: The Devil
(November 19, 2016 at 4:36 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: My question is about the motivation of the devil character in the bible.

The character is written as evil but torments people who are or have been evil.

If the devil is supposed to be evil why did the author give it this trait, which seems to conflict with its main drive?

Surely if the devil wanted to encourage evil acts then hell would be advertised as a super fun place with willing sexual partners of your choice and all the big macs you can eat

Is this inconsistency down to:

bad writing?
an oversight?

or what?

Truth versus your understanding of it.

The devil is not the God of the underworld. He does not get points for steering people away from God. Satan is not a God at all, like the rest of Creation he is a servant/Has a role to perform.
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#23
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 6:42 am)chimp3 Wrote: Is that David Bowie?

Not nearly dead enough to be Bowie.
I am John Cena's hip-hop album.
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#24
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 6:42 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(November 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: [Image: 1718236f38b3498b40b74c9aa33e6afd.jpg]

Is that David Bowie?

No. It's a different man of wealth and taste.
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#25
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote: The devil is not the God of the underworld. He does not get points for steering people away from God. Satan is not a God at all, like the rest of Creation he is a servant/Has a role to perform.

I guess you have not seen the show Lucifer.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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#26
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote: Truth versus your understanding of it.

The devil is not the God of the underworld. He does not get points for steering people away from God. Satan is not a God at all, like the rest of Creation he is a servant/Has a role to perform.

And yet god of the underworld is exactly how he is portrayed isn't it! he is supposed to try and tempt people to the dark side even tryng it on god jr himself.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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#27
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 1:49 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(November 21, 2016 at 6:42 am)chimp3 Wrote: Is that David Bowie?

No. It's a different man of wealth and taste.

He's going to be disappointed you didn't guess his name.
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#28
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 4:45 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:
(November 21, 2016 at 1:49 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: No. It's a different man of wealth and taste.

He's going to be disappointed you didn't guess his name.

I get three guesses, right?

1. Morris
2. Rumpelstiltskin
3. Drich

How did I do?
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#29
RE: The Devil
(November 19, 2016 at 4:36 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Is this inconsistency down to:

bad writing?

Got it in one. You have a character who knows God personally and directly. He is so unimpressed by God that he decides to throw a monkey wrench in his plans. We can assume that he knows that the end result of his rebellion against God is that he will be wiped from existence, so he is a fatalist. Or... he doesn't know that God will kill him? Or... he thinks that he can stand up to God and overcome him?

He certainly can't expect to reason things out with God if he'd read the Bible beforeha-- ohhhhhh...
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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#30
RE: The Devil
(November 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(November 21, 2016 at 4:45 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: He's going to be disappointed you didn't guess his name.

I get three guesses, right?

1. Morris
2. Rumpelstiltskin
3. Drich

How did I do?

I'm afraid I can't accept partial answers.
I am John Cena's hip-hop album.
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