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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2016 at 12:51 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 19, 2016 at 11:17 am)Loading Please Wait Wrote: 1.) Be white
2.) Speak your opinion
3.) Believe in traditional values
4.) Believe in God
5.) Love America
Are these things offensive to you? Why do these things offend so many people? I don't care what color you are, I don't care what your opinion is, I don't care what your values are, I don't care what you believe in and I don't care if you love or hate America.
Why are so many people offended by these simple things?
Inspired by a YouTube video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dstys_yM4Vw
1. Not offensive, obviously
2. Depends on what their opinion is. If their opinion is that I'm a horrible nasty person, then yeah, I'll feel offended lol.
3. Not offensive in the context of what we consider to be traditional values now a days
4. Not offensive, obviously
5. Not offensive. Much the opposite, loving/caring about your country and its people is a positive thing. This doesn't equate to always agreeing with what the country does.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 12:44 pm
(December 19, 2016 at 11:17 am)Loading Please Wait Wrote: 5.) Love America
There's a difference between loving your country and letting blind nationalism get in the way of proper criticism. Of course I'm proud to live here, but there's so much to criticize, and so much we can improve upon.
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 12:45 pm
(December 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm)Divinity Wrote: How to offend people:
#1. Say "Happy Holidays"
#2. Refuse to stand for the pledge of allegiance
#3. Don't believe in God
#4. Approve of a gay couple getting married
#5. Say "Black LIves Matter"
1. Not offensive.
2. Not personally offensive, but disrespectful imho.
3. Not offensive.
4. Not offensive.
5. Not offensive in and of itself, so long as the context isn't burning down buildings or destroying property.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 12:46 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2016 at 12:48 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(December 19, 2016 at 11:56 am)Alex K Wrote: You forgot
unapologetically eating meat
shooting guns
raping piglets
drinking coors light
PC lefties hate that stuff!
My bolding.
(December 19, 2016 at 12:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (December 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm)Divinity Wrote: How to offend people:
#1. Say "Happy Holidays"
#2. Refuse to stand for the pledge of allegiance
#3. Don't believe in God
#4. Approve of a gay couple getting married
#5. Say "Black LIves Matter"
1. Not offensive.
2. Not personally offensive, but disrespectful imho.
3. Not offensive.
4. Not offensive.
5. Not offensive in and of itself, so long as the context isn't burning down buildings or destroying property.
None of the 5 things Divinitiy mentioned are offensive but they certainly do offend some people. For irrational reasons.
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 12:58 pm
I thought it was:
1- find something that is offensive to people.
2- say it.
3- ???
4- profit!
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 1:04 pm
(December 19, 2016 at 12:46 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: None of the 5 things Divinitiy mentioned are offensive but they certainly do offend some people. For irrational reasons.
I agree. Neither are the 5 things the OP posted.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 4:24 pm
Climb down off'n your cross there, Cletus. And quit nailing up strawmen while you're at it, mkay?
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 4:29 pm
Not being gay is also offensive. You can't openly be a straight manly man anymore. And public servants who'd merely like to professionally specialize on performing straight marriages get persecuted and sued!
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 4:32 pm
How to offend people?
Be like EP
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RE: How to offend people
December 19, 2016 at 5:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 19, 2016 at 5:12 pm by Faith No More.)
There's only two reasons to think people are offended by you being white. A) You're a total idiot. B) You spend too much time on Tumblr or YouTube.
"Traditional values" is just code for "denying LGBT rights."
Oh, I'm sure in a country with a predominately Christian population, where it's even illegal to hold office as an atheist in some places, believers find themselves really persecuted. That's why they're always fighting to take down billboards that dare to question their beliefs.
Nothing wrong with loving America, but I find that the people most likely to prattle about their love for the country think we are above any criticism and can do no wrong. They also tend to be people that think we have the right to trample on the rest of the world for our own benefit.
TL;DR if you think anyone is offended by these things, the problem is you, not everyone else, and that kid in the video is a moron.
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