Dear Theists....Why?

[Watson]

*facepalm* I do follow all of its teachings, Zeus. I believe in the Bible as God's Word. But I also believe you have misunderstood the stories contained within the Bible and misconstrued them as something which they are not. So, do I follow all of the teachings in the Bible? Not all, but damn near as close as I can come. Do I think that every single thing in the Bible happened as a historical fact? Obviously not, because that is the wrong way to read the Bible.

I ask you again; how do you know that people do not rise from the dead, or that it is not possible for people to rise from the dead? You have not examined the history of humanity and observed every single human being who ever existed at all throughout life, and found that none of them have ever risen from the dead. That would be the only way to conclusively say people do not rise from the dead.

And even then, you could not make the claim that people might not one day rise from the dead.

[solja247]

This is true: I have never seen a supernova but I know they exist. But again.....people DO NOT rise from the dead. It is impossible. You show your ignorance here my friend. Some things are absolutely false: no questioning that!

But if you dont believe in absolutes, perhaps rising from the dead is possilbe. In fact we arent talking about a mere man, but God Himself. If one believes God can do anything, then surely God can rise Himself from the dead?

[HeyItsZeus]

It is good that you understand this in my opinion. But remember this: Some this we have discovered and can fully understand. For example: We are alive. You don't deny this because you know this is true. ""until then, science is objective, but not absolute."" Now to my point, some things are absolute truth already

But we cant say anything absolutely. I can say my favourite food is chicken, but that is as far as absolutes go. Science, morality, theology, philosophy is continually evolving. Even the law of entropy may be proven wrong, its not absolute (Its an absolute in the observable world at the moment)

If you take this stance, then how can you say that Christianity is illogical? You cant. I cant say Atheism is illogical either.

Also, you may not be alive, you may be sleeping or in some other dimension. You do have some sought of existence but what that existence is, we will not know in this life...

You have just disproved yourself on absolutes.

I can not disprove this but I do know one thing, I am in an existence. An existence where certain laws of nature apply. An existence where some things are real and others false. One where I can disprove your religion along with others.

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*facepalm* I do follow all of its teachings, Zeus. I believe in the Bible as God's Word. But I also believe you have misunderstood the stories contained within the Bible and misconstrued them as something which they are not. So, do I follow all of the teachings in the Bible? Not all, but damn near as close as I can come. Do I think that every single thing in the Bible happened as a historical fact? Obviously not, because that is the wrong way to read the Bible.

I ask you again; how do you know that people do not rise from the dead, or that it is not possible for people to rise from the dead? You have not examined the history of humanity and observed every single human being who ever existed at all throughout life, and found that none of them have ever risen from the dead. That would be the only way to conclusively say people do not rise from the dead.

And even then, you could not make the claim that people might not one day rise from the dead.

Maybe Jesus was a robot then........

[Watson]

Sure, let's go with that. As long as we're making absurd, unfounded claims about Christianity, Jesus was a robot.

EDIT: HAH! My 666th post is blasphemy!

[HeyItsZeus]

This is true: I have never seen a supernova but I know they exist. But again.....people DO NOT rise from the dead. It is impossible. You show your ignorance here my friend. Some things are absolutely false: no questioning that!

But if you dont believe in absolutes, perhaps rising from the dead is possilbe. In fact we arent talking about a mere man, but God Himself. If one believes God can do anything, then surely God can rise Himself from the dead?

But I do believe in absolutes.

Absolutes:expressing finality with no implication of possible change. Where is your proof that Jesus was you you say he is? I have proof that he wasn't: people don't rise from the dead, naturally anyway. And it can't be supernaturally either since your god is false.

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Sure, let's go with that. As long as we're making absurd, unfounded claims about Christianity, Jesus was a robot.

EDIT: HAH! My 666th post is blasphemy!

How can you disprove he wasn't using your logic? BTW....it was meant as a joke.

[Watson]

I don't have to disprove anything, especially a stupid claim like 'Jesus was a robot. There is no reason I should have to disprove your claim that Jesus was a robot at all.

[HeyItsZeus]

I don't have to disprove anything, especially a stupid claim like 'Jesus was a robot. There is no reason I should have to disprove your claim that Jesus was a robot at all.

I know it's a stupid claim because I made it up. Just like your fantasies were. You can disprove me because robots didn't exist at the time. I can disprove you because people don't rise from the dead.

Now using your logic, you can't disprove me because it is technically impossible to know for sure they didn't have robots, but it's safe to assume they didn't. You need to argue one way and stick with it, Watson.

[Watson]

I am. You, on the other hand, are not. It just isn't worth my time to attempt this debate because it has turned into a clusterfuck of stupidity.

[HeyItsZeus]

I am. You, on the other hand, are not. It just isn't worth my time to attempt this debate because it has turned into a clusterfuck of stupidity.

If your so worried about it then just stop being stupid. Oh, I just showed you that you weren't BTW. Just look above 2 posts.

[Watson]

Lol I'll try, my friend.