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4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challened Man
(January 5, 2017 at 2:55 pm)A Theist Wrote: Defending, downplaying the racial motivation of the attackers, it's all the same to me. At least, that's the way I see it.

I definitely agree with you. Obviously a hate crime.

The only thing I noticed about this incident was the victim being mentally handicapped. I didn't go looking for his skin color, since in lights of what has happened that seemed entirely unimportant. The mentally handicapped part stuck out like a sore thumb, since this is happening pretty frequently, without the perpetrators being stupid enough to televise the act.
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challened Man
I think hate crimes have a harsher penalty and are considered more serious. (correct me if I'm wrong)

If someone tries to deny a crime being a hate crime, I can see how some could take it as an indirect defense of the act/perpetrator, since it makes the crime less terrible.
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(January 5, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sorry. This doesn't really answer my question. The media downplaying this (if they do) doesn't really explain why Bella and that weird guy think people on this forum will actually defend people who beat and ridiculed a man, let alone a mentally handicapped man.

Perhaps Bella and the weird guy imagine that's what they would do, if the attackers were Drumpf supporters? Or at the very least, they'd call it "a false flag operation", staged by "libtards", in order to smear the good name of nationalists.

Also - persecution complex is all the rage among kids right now and right wing sympathisers don't get enough opportunities, to paint themselves as victims and their political opponents as monsters.

Personally - I find it quite sad, that some people have the need to milk a horrible crime, for political reasons, but hey - I suppose they need to grab every chance they get... Dodgy
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(January 5, 2017 at 2:40 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(January 5, 2017 at 2:33 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Then your purpose was to call me out? You have something to say, say it, don't cower under another subject.

Let me put it like this.

You called me out in another thread for posting an article that I'd found on reddit. I found that rather bizarre as I don't really see what difference it makes but you seemed to be quite intent on calling me an imbecile for it (unbecoming for a moderator Wink )

I found the story in the OP from a reddit thread, and naturally when writing up the post I knew you would rave like some stupid chimpanzee who think's he's just solved a rubix cube.

So I got in first.

10/10 would do it again. 4D Tetris champion right here.


On the topic of reddit, I'm not quite sure what your beef is there, but hey, you kicked off that subject in a rather confrontational manner in the first instance so I couldn't give a flying fuck what the beef actually is.


And now I'm just responding to your bait posts for the fun of it until I get bored or get warned from a moderator for 'trolling', as though you aren't the most obnoxious baiter on this forum.

(January 5, 2017 at 2:39 pm)A Theist Wrote: MTV basically says that black people can't be racist....

Fuck me I'm glad you posted this video.

C'mon white people, we can do so much better.

Here's the original:




That's funny! Damn White People!
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(January 5, 2017 at 2:58 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 5, 2017 at 2:55 pm)A Theist Wrote: Defending, downplaying the racial motivation of the attackers, it's all the same to me. At least, that's the way I see it.

I definitely agree with you. Obviously a hate crime.

The only thing I noticed about this incident was the victim being mentally handicapped. I didn't go looking for his skin color, since in lights of what has happened that seemed entirely unimportant. The mentally handicapped part stuck out like a sore thumb, since this is happening pretty frequently, without the perpetrators being stupid enough to televise the act.

The most incriminating part was that they said "f*ck white people" as they were doing it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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(January 5, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The most incriminating part was that they said "f*ck white people" as they were doing it.

I didn't watch the video. I only read what our news reported, and that was group attacking mentally handicapped man and putting the vid on Facebook. So I would have filed that under hate crime anyway, since I assumed it was because of them feeling superior to the guy they were beating.
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(January 5, 2017 at 2:41 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(January 5, 2017 at 2:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I am so confused about the Nap/LP feud going on right now lol.

Look at the OP and look at the subject of the thread. Why is my name in there?

The simple fact is that some people think a moderator has to be all polished to participate. I got called out, I responded in kind. I have the previlege as any other members.

Yeah I saw that. Though I'm confused as to how that all started or what he was referring to specifically. I can't always stay on top of the AF drama! Smile
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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(January 5, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sorry. This doesn't really answer my question. The media downplaying this (if they do) doesn't really explain why Bella and that weird guy think people on this forum will actually defend people who beat and ridiculed a man, let alone a mentally handicapped man.

I imagine they think it because the MSM perpetuates and seems to have bias for, a lot of the opinions many people hold on this forum.

Let's call it the 'left wing'. A rather broad spectrum and by no means am I lumping everyone into a box. But the MSM is pretty damn left wing to the point of gross stupidity (CNN). Rather like a lot of people on this forum, I hate to say (I don't).

Hence the connection between the two. The narratives are the same so it's not all that wild to suspect the same response.

(January 5, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: You guys keep playing the race card as the reason you think people will defend the attackers.

We "keep playing the race card"?

Are you aware of the irony in this?
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(January 5, 2017 at 3:05 pm)abaris Wrote:
(January 5, 2017 at 3:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The most incriminating part was that they said "f*ck white people" as they were doing it.

I didn't watch the video. I only read what our news reported, and that was group attacking mentally handicapped man and putting the vid on Facebook. So I would have filed that under hate crime anyway, since I assumed it was because of them feeling superior to the guy they were beating.

Since they said, "f*ck white people" as they were beating the poor guy, who happened to be white, would you say the attack was racially motivated then? It was in the video.
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Well, newsflash. I don't care about the skin color or origin of the victims. If someone beats someone else to a pulp, I'm not playing favorites. It's always despicable. And the fact that news of this incident travelled some 1000 miles doesn't exactly point to the media downplaying the incident. Not every beating, murder even, makes international headlines.

(January 5, 2017 at 3:11 pm)A Theist Wrote: Since they said, "f*ck white people" as they were beating the poor guy, who happened to be white, would you say the attack was racially motivated then? It was in the video.

I don't care. The act is despicable and I would call it a hate crime. Regardless if it was about race or his handicap.
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