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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 19, 2017 at 6:57 pm
(February 17, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Lek Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 5:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -and even though that never panned out, here people are, centuries later, hanging on the words as though they were credible. / shrugs
What I'm saying is that the generation that witnesses these events will be the generation that will not pass away before his second coming.
Bullshit.
Quote:Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Mat. 16:28
I am willing to bet that all of the motherfuckers are already dead.
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 19, 2017 at 10:38 pm
That's not how logic works in christer-land. Anyone else would say: JC promised to return before those guys died - they died without him returning ∴ JC (or the story) was full of shit.
They say: JayCee promised to return before those guys died - he didn't return (yet) ∴ those guys didn't die (yet).
Fundy logic - just like real logic, only without the logic.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 19, 2017 at 11:01 pm
(February 17, 2017 at 9:40 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?
So because it hasn't happened yet, it won't happen? Anybody see anything fallacious here?
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 19, 2017 at 11:04 pm
(February 19, 2017 at 10:38 pm)Stimbo Wrote: That's not how logic works in christer-land. Anyone else would say: JC promised to return before those guys died - they died without him returning ∴ JC (or the story) was full of shit.
They say: JayCee promised to return before those guys died - he didn't return (yet) ∴ those guys didn't die (yet).
Fundy logic - just like real logic, only without the logic.
He was referring to their "spiritual death"!
Yes, I have encountered that one...
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 20, 2017 at 1:56 pm
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(February 19, 2017 at 5:27 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: But the language of Jesus and his band of men would have been Aramaic which DID have a written form. So the very first writtings would have lost something in translation and there are NO written accounts in the original tongue. A bit like taking the google translate to Chinese and then into english account of something as your holy book. When you get it, it has been translated at least three times.
There were a number of different languages spoken within the Roman Empire at the time, but Greek was the most widely spoken and understood. The new testament was written to Gentiles as well as Jews.
(February 19, 2017 at 11:27 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: Thank you for your thoughtful reply, sir. In your opinion, are humans, or at least those people who choose to think about reality in a religious/theistic manner, fully capable of objectively distinguishing between worshiping a true God and not some God that was formed/created in their minds? How would practitioners of religion/theism be able to honestly differentiate between the two? Is this ultimately where faith comes in?
In my case, I was raised in the catholic faith and believed devoutly well into my adult life. At a certain point I began to re-evaluate my beliefs and determined that I couldn't accept much of the doctrine of the catholic church. So based on that, I left the catholic church and started attending a protestant church. This shows that I'm capable of evaluating a belief that I was raised with and making a definite decision as to whether or not to continue in it. At a later point, though I never doubted the existence of God, I began to seriously doubt the validity of the christian faith. I took the matter directly to God in prayer and because of signs I received and one event in particular, along with continuing insights into scripture, my christian faith was re-enforced. Additionally, I did make a step of faith because I had no unquestionable scientific or historical proof that the writings of the bible are true, but I do have re-enforcement from God himself that I made the right choice. So people can become confused over distinguishing between different beliefs and images of God, but I believe that if one goes to God with a true heart, he or she will be led to God.
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 21, 2017 at 3:56 am
Well I'm going to do something that Christians never do. I think Lek was correct about Matthew 24 and I was wrong.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 21, 2017 at 1:24 pm
(February 19, 2017 at 11:01 pm)Odoital77 Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 9:40 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?
So because it hasn't happened yet, it won't happen? Anybody see anything fallacious here?
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Aside from the fact your a "follower" of a myth?
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 21, 2017 at 1:28 pm
(February 19, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 10:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: When is not the question you should be asking. The question is will I be ready when He does. When Christ returns and if you're still alive it will be the worst day of your life. You will find you can't escape not even if you try and take your life. This is when you will see the power of the God you've tried to mock and I can promise you for those who are not ready it will be a very bad day.
GC
Hello, sir. I recall a quote from the movie Inherit The Wind (1960):"religion is supposed to comfort people, not frighten them to death." Bertram Cates.
Now, with all do respect to you, sir, would you say that your post is reflective of your deity's love? Or, is it a reflection of your feelings toward certain people who choose to mock your beliefs or are disrespectful toward you in other ways? Or, do you have another explanation, sir? Thanks and live long and prosper, sir.
There is a fear element with God. Due to the gift of free will, we can accept or reject him. If we accept him there is comfort and no fear. Those are consequences of choosing him over the world. If you choose not to follow him and follow the way of the world, then you choose the consequences that will befall the world. The love he offers is the means to escape the trials that come with an existence without him. If you choose him you have eternity with him. If you don't choose him you have eternity without him. Eternity without him results in the suffering involved in the state of being totally without his influence.
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 22, 2017 at 1:12 am
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(February 19, 2017 at 4:55 pm)HairyCyclist Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 10:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: When is not the question you should be asking. The question is will I be ready when He does. When Christ returns and if you're still alive it will be the worst day of your life. You will find you can't escape not even if you try and take your life. This is when you will see the power of the God you've tried to mock and I can promise you for those who are not ready it will be a very bad day.
GC
Haha, but remember he loves us. This is the type of shit that really pisses me off. threats threats and more threats.
Believe in him, love him, or burn.
I mock God, he deserves it, and leaves himself wide open to it.
God cares about you but, if you think mocking Him in someway hurts Him you,re wrong.
Gc
(February 19, 2017 at 5:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 10:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: When is not the question you should be asking. The question is will I be ready when He does. When Christ returns and if you're still alive it will be the worst day of your life. You will find you can't escape not even if you try and take your life. This is when you will see the power of the God you've tried to mock and I can promise you for those who are not ready it will be a very bad day.
GC
What, he's coming back on a Monday?
The important thing here is that He is coming back, when I do not know, what I do know is it's important to be ready.
GC
(February 19, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 10:03 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Hello, sir. I recall a quote from the movie Inherit The Wind (1960):"religion is supposed to comfort people, not frighten them to death." Bertram Cates.
Now, with all do respect to you, sir, would you say that your post is reflective of your deity's love?
Certainly, no Christian has anything to worry about, we have God and his comfort.
Kernel S Wrote:Or, is it a reflection of your feelings toward certain people who choose to mock your beliefs or are disrespectful toward you in other ways? Or, do you have another explanation, sir? Thanks and live long and prosper, sir.
First off I like all people will live till I die. Second people can mock me and who I believe in and it doesn't matter because it doesn't change my eternal destination. Third what I said is a warning from scripture to those who refuse to believe in Christ, what will be your finial decision on this matter. It's more important than you want to understand.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How long will Christians wait for Jesus?
February 22, 2017 at 1:59 am
(February 19, 2017 at 11:01 pm)Odoital77 Wrote: (February 17, 2017 at 9:40 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: One really wonders how long this can go on. Will there come a day when Christianity revises this claim, or will it simply let it go? Will they be eagerly awaiting him in the year 3000? If so, what about five thousand years from now? Ten thousand years?
So because it hasn't happened yet, it won't happen? Anybody see anything fallacious here?
Odoital77
Let me guess. You think the dumb fucks are still "standing there?"
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