Why aren't the Indians more grateful?

[abaris]

I've just broken google translate.

Well, don't bother then. It doesn't have meaning.

[Mr Greene]

There's a difference between what you call white guilt and accepting that our history wasn't all good and working on not repeating it. White guilt is a fringe phenomenon, which may be shared by a few activists. Working on making things better in the future and accepting our own wrongdoings is somethíng everyone should do, since it's aimed at creating a better environment for everyone.

Agreed. Pauplpablo says:

The same way all the civilizations who invaded Britain didn't do it to give the people baths, aquaducts and straight roads.

... but what he is ignoring is the fact that come the industrial revolution, Britain became an empire by conquering 23% of the world's population and at its height was the largest empire in history.

I don't feel guilt for that because I wasn't alive at the time. But inversely, some people still feel pride in the British empire. The empire mentality still blights Britain even though we are no longer an empire. I can fight against this. I can also recognise that I am indirectly benefiting from Britain having an empire in the past. It won't stop me continuing to benefit from it, but I can at least appreciate why.

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Yes we sometimes say that, on the rare occasions when we're not busy verwurstenschlagen our kobenhogenstrudel.

I've just broken google translate.

Personally I find that anyone who attempts to describe European colonialism as either good or bad invariably knows **** all about it.

[Whateverist]

TYVM.  As they say in your homeland, I got class coming out of the Wazzenschnicter, I does.

Boru

Yes we sometimes say that, on the rare occasions when we're not busy verwurstenschlagen our kobenhogenstrudel.

Hey, we got an area 69 for that kind of thing, buddy.

[account_inactive]

What were the Indians doing for years? Just hunting animals and pretty much doing nothing and never progressing. Thousands of years and not one city built.

I couldn't really comment on what they were doing, but I would assume they preferred their way of life compared to being "roughed up a little" and made a minority in their own land.

I just get so sick and tired of all this white guilt stuff. Why isn't there a white history month or some acknowledgement that the white race has done so much for the world?

Acknowledging that some awful things happened in the past doesn't mean you feel guilty about the colour of your skin. Nobody, of any ethnic group, should feel guilty about their heritage and anyone who thinks they should can fuck off.

[abaris]

Personally I find that anyone who attempts to describe European colonialism as either good or bad invariably knows **** all about it.

I would be hard pressed to find anything good on European colonialism. Other than serving their home country that is.

They set up a chain of monocultural economies that didn't serve the place when they finally got independence. What's more, they weren't interested in ethnic integrity of the region, which led to many civil wars over who's ruling whom after colonial rule was over. It also prevented all these regions from finding their own identity and an equal role in the global economy.

There have been worse and better colonial regimes. The Belgian king's rule over the Kongo probably one of the worst, but that doesn't mean that any colonial rule ever cared over the wellbeing of the indigenous people there.

At the start, they were sold of into slavery and at the end they were exploited to serve the need of the motherland in question.

So, no. You can't say, colonial rule provided much of a benefit to the people in the colonies. Only for the motherland, in terms of trade goods and global influence.

[brewer]

OP: I hope you visit their casinos, bet big and bet often. You're just what they are looking for.

[LostLocke]

What were the Indians doing for years? Just hunting animals and pretty much doing nothing and never progressing. Thousands of years and not one city built.

I couldn't really comment on what they were doing, but I would assume they preferred their way of life compared to being "roughed up a little" and made a minority in their own land

Being a lifelong Illinois resident, one thing I can tell you they were doing was building cities. Oh wait, that flies in the face of the "alternative facts" of the OP.

[paulpablo]

Speaking as someone who feels no white guilt, I don't think the native Americans have anyone to be grateful to.

There's a difference between what you call white guilt and accepting that our history wasn't all good and working on not repeating it. White guilt is a fringe phenomenon, which may be shared by a few activists. Working on making things better in the future and accepting our own wrongdoings is somethíng everyone should do, since it's aimed at creating a better environment for everyone.

Who's wrong doings?  When you say our own.

[abaris]

Who's wrong doings?  When you say our own.

Belonging to a certain society warrants to accept wrongdoings. White guilt is something entitrly different. I don't feel guilty over what some of my ancestors may have done, but I'm willing to accept that some of these doings were outright wrong and inhumane. What's wrong with that? I'm not in the business of flag waving. I'm in the business of making this world a better place. What little I can do anyway.

[paulpablo]

Who's wrong doings?  When you say our own.

Belonging to a certain society warrants to accept wrongdoings. White guilt is something entitrly different. I don't feel guilty over what some of my ancestors may have done, but I'm willing to accept that some of these doings were outright wrong and inhumane. What's wrong with that?

I didn't say there's something wrong with accepting certain "doings" are wrong and inhumane.

My question is relating to you saying "our" wrong doings.  Are you talking all of humanity should accept that we've done things that were wrong? In terms of our ansestors.