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Question for Deists
March 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm
Forgive me if this question has already been covered in a thread. I suppose I could ask it of theists too, but there meanderings are fairly stock on the subject.
* Deist God: a mono supernatural deity that created everything and then sat back(somewhere) and let it all play out into the future on it's own with zero intervention.
My question to deists: Where do you believe your God is? Where is the "somewhere"? That is, how would you locate "Him/Her" if you had to? I am very interested to hear the answers. Thanks!
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 7:10 am
(March 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Forgive me if this question has already been covered in a thread. I suppose I could ask it of theists too, but there meanderings are fairly stock on the subject.
*Deist God: a mono supernatural deity that created everything and then sat back(somewhere) and let it all play out into the future on it's own with zero intervention.
My question to deists: Where do you believe your God is? Where is the "somewhere"? That is, how would you locate "Him/Her" if you had to? I am very interested to hear the answers. Thanks!
God is not physical so has no location in space. Omnipresence means that he is aware of every location in the universe.
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 9:35 am
(March 27, 2017 at 7:10 am)SteveII Wrote: (March 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Forgive me if this question has already been covered in a thread. I suppose I could ask it of theists too, but there meanderings are fairly stock on the subject.
*Deist God: a mono supernatural deity that created everything and then sat back(somewhere) and let it all play out into the future on it's own with zero intervention.
My question to deists: Where do you believe your God is? Where is the "somewhere"? That is, how would you locate "Him/Her" if you had to? I am very interested to hear the answers. Thanks!
God is not physical so has no location in space. Omnipresence means that he is aware of every location in the universe.
Redefining words again?
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 9:43 am
Omnipresent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, totipotent, and omnisexual . . . .
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 10:02 am
(March 27, 2017 at 9:35 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: (March 27, 2017 at 7:10 am)SteveII Wrote: God is not physical so has no location in space. Omnipresence means that he is aware of every location in the universe.
Redefining words again?
Why do you think my definition is wrong?
Before you go saying that God is everywhere, that is not going to hold up. The universe is expanding. If God was everywhere, is God expanding? Or perhaps becoming diluted? Additionally, the universe if finite. Does that mean that God is finite. More silly conclusion can be drawn from a too-simplistic view: for example, is a portion of God in my coffee cup and the rest of him outside of it? No, God does not occupy space and is therefore not literally everywhere. I believe he is cognizant of and causally active at every point in space.
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 10:29 am
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(March 27, 2017 at 10:02 am)SteveII Wrote: (March 27, 2017 at 9:35 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Redefining words again?
Why do you think my definition is wrong?
Before you go saying that God is everywhere, that is not going to hold up. The universe is expanding. If God was everywhere, is God expanding? Or perhaps becoming diluted? Additionally, the universe if finite. Does that mean that God is finite. More silly conclusion can be drawn from a too-simplistic view: for example, is a portion of God in my coffee cup and the rest of him outside of it? No, God does not occupy space and is therefore not literally everywhere. I believe he is cognizant of and causally active at every point in space.
You actually have a point here. Deities don't necessarily need to be everywhere all the time, it's just that they should be able to be anywhere at any time if they wish to. Of course I don't believe any such god exists, but for the sake of definitions, this argument is sound.
The problem is where you stated earlier that God is not physical and doesn't occupy any space. That to me is synonymous with non-existence. Existence is physical.
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 12:01 pm
(March 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Where do you believe your God is?
No idea.
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 12:10 pm
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(March 27, 2017 at 10:02 am)SteveII Wrote: (March 27, 2017 at 9:35 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Redefining words again?
Why do you think my definition is wrong?
Before you go saying that God is everywhere, that is not going to hold up. The universe is expanding. If God was everywhere, is God expanding? Or perhaps becoming diluted? Additionally, the universe if finite. Does that mean that God is finite. More silly conclusion can be drawn from a too-simplistic view: for example, is a portion of God in my coffee cup and the rest of him outside of it? No, God does not occupy space and is therefore not literally everywhere. I believe he is cognizant of and causally active at every point in space.
Dude... "omnipresent" does mean "everywhere".
When you discover that God can't be omnipresent the correct response is that he can't be omnipresent. Not to redefine what the word means.
But I am not surprised because it's exactly like how Christians respond to contradictions in the Bible. Whenever there's a contradiction instead of realizing that the Bible makes no sense they decide to interpret those parts non-literally.
Fucking ridiculous. When logic disagrees with the Bible you throw out logic.
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 12:12 pm
(March 27, 2017 at 12:01 pm)Isis Wrote: (March 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Where do you believe your God is?
No idea.
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RE: Question for Deists
March 27, 2017 at 12:13 pm
In response to the OP, my idea of a deistic god is indistinguishable from a god that doesn't exist. And as to the question in the OP, if the deistic god does not interact/influence reality in any way, then I doubt anyone would say they could 'locate' said being.
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