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Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Bill O'Reilly debates Richard Dawkins and wins. What do you think?
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 4:08 pm
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No...
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 4:32 pm
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(September 25, 2010 at 3:20 pm)A Theist Wrote: Bill O'Reilly debates Richard Dawkins and wins. What do you think?
Dawkins won that argument, for his points still stand.
Just because we don't have all the answers doesn't mean you do with god.
No one knows how everything came about, even theists. Dawkins made excellant points and O'Reilly just ignored them. Plus, O'Reilly started yelling. Not a good thing when your trying to defend your argument.
Dawkins answered and with great points. O'Reilly lost the argument the moment he started yelling.
That's all I have to say. O'Reilly is a prat.
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Even when heaily edited, it was obvious that O'Reilly was pwned. His argument was like Fallacy State, USA.
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 6:20 pm
(September 25, 2010 at 4:32 pm)Ace Wrote: (September 25, 2010 at 3:20 pm)A Theist Wrote: Bill O'Reilly debates Richard Dawkins and wins. What do you think?
Dawkins won that argument, for his points still stand.
Just because we don't have all the answers doesn't mean you do with god.
No one knows how everything came about, even theists. Dawkins made excellant points and O'Reilly just ignored them. Plus, O'Reilly started yelling. Not a good thing when your trying to defend your argument.
Dawkins answered and with great points. O'Reilly lost the argument the moment he started yelling.
That's all I have to say. O'Reilly is a prat.
Quote:Dawkins won that argument, for his points still stand.
Just because we don't have all the answers doesn't mean you do with god.
Dawkins had no point to stand on when O'Reilly got him to admit that science doesn't have all the answers. No way was Dawkins the clear cut winner.
What did you think of the "The Young Turks" assessment of the debate?
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Quote:wkins had no point to stand on when O'Reilly got him to admit that science doesn't have all the answers. No way was Dawkins the clear cut winner.
Of course science doesn't have all the answers, no one claims that it does. That doesn't mean it isn't the best method for understanding the universe. It doesn't claim to "know" anything. It goes where the evidence points. Unlike religion, it doesn't make baseless assertions. There is no evidence for god, and so god is not used as an explanation. God is a non-answer and so it is totaly useless to us.
The problem with you theists (not all of you) is that you want all the answers right here and now.
Well tough. Feel free to answer the big questions yourself if you like, don't mean you're right about it though.
Science is a method, a tool used to open up, look into, discover and learn. Not a sudden...BANG...we know everything. That is what religion does. Religion answers everything, that's what makes it so unbelieveable. Plus it can never provide evidence for it's claims.
So yes, Dawkins won that argument. His points stand.
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 6:50 pm
(September 25, 2010 at 6:20 pm)A Theist Wrote: Dawkins had no point to stand on when O'Reilly got him to admit that science doesn't have all the answers. No way was Dawkins the clear cut winner.
Dawkins repeatedly pointed out that of course science does not have all the answers but O'reilly just ignored him.
So no, O'reilly did not win.
I'll say this in little words so you can understand.....
Science does NOT have all the answers, that is WHY it is science.
Science is the tool we use to find the answers, if and when we do have all the answers it won't be science anymore.
And even if science did find all the answers, idiots like O'reilly would still say it was god.
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 7:42 pm
You know, this is the thing most uneducated theists get mistaken more, the scientific methodology... Science does not make claims of absolute truth, if it did it would be just another religion. Science evaluates empirical data, then evaluates previous knowledge of the subject at hand, then provide an hypotheisis, then test that hypothesis. if the tested hypothesis does fit the tests, its subjected to peer review, if not, go back to the start and generate new data, and so on, until a satisfactory explanation is found.
If science had everithing figured out, it would be then cease to exist, as there was no need of it...
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 8:58 pm
I copy / pasted a few quotes from your responses,...
"Just because we don't have all the answers..."
"No one knows how everything came about,..."
"Of course science doesn't have all the answers, no one claims that it does."
" It doesn't claim to "know" anything."
"Dawkins repeatedly pointed out that of course science does not have all the answers"
"Science does not make claims of absolute truth, "
"Science does NOT have all the answers, that is WHY it is science."
"If science had everything figured out, it would be then cease to exist,"... (sort of like guessing. if you had everything figured out, it would no longer be guess work).
Can any of you prove that God does not exist?
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RE: Bill O'Reilly punks Richard Dawkins
September 25, 2010 at 9:09 pm
(September 25, 2010 at 8:58 pm)A Theist Wrote: Can any of you prove that God does not exist? No, but that wasn't the point of the debate. In fact, Dawkins has repeatedly said in the past that he doesn't believe you can prove God doesn't exist.
However, just because you cannot prove something doesn't exist, doesn't mean that "something" is any more likely to exist. You need evidence to back up the existence of something, and without that evidence, there is no rational reason to believe something exists in the first place.
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