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Science versus Engineering.
#11
RE: Science versus Engineering.
Scientists, Engineers, and Technicians


and a Vorlon story:

many years ago, I was assembling an electrical cabinet. There were many wires, many gizmos and many thingamabobbers in it. And there were carefully prepared engineering drawings and blueprints guiding me every step of the way. And there at the top of the cabinet was a hole. And over the hole goes a fan. So, does the fan suck out or blow in?

LOL, the fan was on the paper work as blowing in. From the top.

Hmmm.


Bunch of electrical stuff in the cabinet as it is, and I thought everyone knew 'hot air rises', so shouldn't the fan blow the other way? You know, to augment something that was happening anyhow instead of fighting it?

Well, I was working for a big outfit, and I was already aware changing things could either make one a hero or a goat. So, I sent an interdepartmental envelope with an invitation to the engineer for the project to come on down to the lab and have a chat. Lo and behold, he came down the next day, and I found myself, as a technician, explaining to a pretty major aerospace engineer how "hot air rises" and how about changing the direction of the fan.

I received a "I'll get back to you".

And a week later, there was a new revision to the blueprints sent to our department, and the fan was reversed.


I don't know what that cost the company, but back in the 80s, there was some CAD in house, but I don't think 'in house' equipment was handled that way, so after the engineer put in a change order, the drafting department had to pull the print from the files, and an actual draftsman had to erase and fix the details on the fan and add a bullet to the drawings (top, side and front views) and then record a new rev, # to the prints, file everything, and send a copy of the corrected print to the offsite corporate storage repository, and then another set to me. And every step of the way, higher ups had to sign off everything that was happening.

In the big scheme of things, take heart in the process, all that care for a fan on a test stand might seem excessive, but the test stand equipment was used to test hardware for passenger, general and military aircraft, and to date, nothing bad has happened.
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#12
RE: Science versus Engineering.
Reminds me of Feynman's memoirs. Write a couple more! Big Grin
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#13
RE: Science versus Engineering.
I gotta million of 'em.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#14
RE: Science versus Engineering.
I just got permission that I can teach my engineering students Lagrangian mechanics. Woot, we're going to have so much fun!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#15
RE: Science versus Engineering.
(April 20, 2017 at 1:17 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I gotta million of 'em.

You, sir, need to write a memoir, with everything.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#16
RE: Science versus Engineering.
Rocket science is easy, rocket engineering is hard!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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#17
RE: Science versus Engineering.
(April 20, 2017 at 5:52 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Rocket science is easy, rocket engineering is hard!

You know the Big Bang Theory episode in which Sheldon's sister tells him how she's been bragging that her brother is a rocket scientist, and Sheldon is incredibly offended by that? Big Grin
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#18
RE: Science versus Engineering.
I watched MacGyver, the old series, and it seems all you need in life is duct tape, a paper clip, a rubber band and a swiss army knife.

Well, the swiss army knife I have really has paid itself many times. A lot of times I need a tool on the run and that really helps. I carry it around and how many times I found use to it. It also opens beers.
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#19
RE: Science versus Engineering.
(April 20, 2017 at 7:51 am)Alex K Wrote:
(April 20, 2017 at 5:52 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Rocket science is easy, rocket engineering is hard!

You know the Big Bang Theory episode in which Sheldon's sister tells him how she's been bragging that her brother is a rocket scientist, and Sheldon is incredibly offended by that? Big Grin

Is it because sheldon's sister has a thing for Howard?
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#20
RE: Science versus Engineering.
(April 20, 2017 at 3:11 am)Alex K Wrote: I just got permission that I can teach my engineering students Lagrangian mechanics. Woot, we're going to have so much fun!

Here's a great book, if you are not already using it:

https://books.google.com/books/about/Cla...kCtNr-pJsC

And, it's free!  (Note that Taylor does confuse Pluto with Neptune near the end of the book, but other than that forgivable error by a physicist, the book is fantastic!)

P.S. I thought that it was free! (Damn.)
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