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Consciousness Quadlemma!
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 (May 25, 2017 at 2:56 am)Luckie Wrote: No but I wish we'd hunt undocumented Russian foreign agents in this country as fervently as Americans did the communists back in the day! :] You want them to go after Trump and his cronies? 
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 (May 25, 2017 at 9:06 am)Alex K Wrote:(May 25, 2017 at 12:08 am)ignoramus Wrote: 1] I think, therefore I am one with my physcal mind Yeah he is. Because both exist in at least some sense. Nah, but seriously, like a lot of philosophers: Sartre didn't get everything right 
 (May 25, 2017 at 4:08 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(May 25, 2017 at 2:56 am)Luckie Wrote: No but I wish we'd hunt undocumented Russian foreign agents in this country as fervently as Americans did the communists back in the day! :] Um, Trump is a cooked turkey already, what with confessing to obstruction of justice on national television? I'm more concerned with yeah his cronies and every member of Congress or Senate who collude to also obstruct or who have had ties with Russia or who ignored the Intelligence Agencies' warnings last August? about the security of our voting and election process. And I don't want wish washy light sentences either, I want the BOOK thrown on their laps so hard they wish they were all women. The security guard is to be held accountable if he knowingly sits back and watches a robbery, because he was charged with protecting that which was stolen. Our elected officials are no different.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong. ![[Image: tumblr_n1j4lmACk61qchtw3o1_500.gif]](https://66.media.tumblr.com/5fb74c6d16622fb3dbb358509c9aec03/tumblr_n1j4lmACk61qchtw3o1_500.gif)
(May 25, 2017 at 8:45 pm)Luckie Wrote:(May 25, 2017 at 4:08 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: You want them to go after Trump and his cronies? Luckie for President! 
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Lol nah nah I'm jumpin ship yo. Heading for Australia where people are sane, and the government isn't completely fucked!
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
(May 25, 2017 at 9:19 pm)Luckie Wrote: Lol nah nah I'm jumpin ship yo. Heading for Australia where people are sane, and the government isn't completely fucked! Cool. Any particular city chosen yet? Melbourne. Hint. Hint.
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(May 25, 2017 at 9:21 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(May 25, 2017 at 9:19 pm)Luckie Wrote: Lol nah nah I'm jumpin ship yo. Heading for Australia where people are sane, and the government isn't completely fucked! Well, Esquilax and I want to move to Melbourne eventually yeah! But for now he's in Perth aND I just want to be with him regardless the locale. We'll be married 3yrs next January, 5yrs together total.. I think AU wouldn't mind taking me in. I have consideed filing for asylum from crazy Trumpland, but why do that if I'm a legit spouse??
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
 (May 25, 2017 at 11:12 pm)Luckie Wrote:(May 25, 2017 at 9:21 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Cool. We have a Melbourne here in Florida. 
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (May 25, 2017 at 11:12 pm)Luckie Wrote:(May 25, 2017 at 9:21 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Cool. Well, let me just welcome you both to Oz, from New Zealand. Perth is a beautiful city, too.
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Aww thank you! ♡
I do want to visit New Zealand someday!! Gorgeous pics I've seen out of there, and I'm a photographer so .. yeah. Sorry Ignoramus didn't mean to jack your thread! Personally I don't understand why people think that consciousness is anything other than the manifestations of experiences stored by the brain and expressed genetically tbroughout the body. In order to understand something, one must know it's limits. Study the extreme examples and you can get a good idea about the subject at hand. Consciousness can be altered with the alteration of the brain. Who you are, is dependent on your current version of your brain. If you get hit in the head with a 2x4, suffer brain damage in just the right place, live in a coma till your body rewires, then you can wake up an entirely different person! There are many medical examples of this.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite. Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment. Quote:Some people deserve hell. I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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