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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 12:43 pm
(June 16, 2017 at 7:30 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: It seems if you try to point that out to them, they will either A) Resort to name calling, B) Tell you to shut up and get over it ["We won, you lost] or C) Deflect to Hillary.
I too think Hillary is corrupt, but she is not president right now. So what is so hard for them to understand about this? http://prntscr.com/fkprs3 Here's a screen shot of this discussion.
Well, there is something to the point that if Trump is so freaking bad, how in the world did you guys lose to him?
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 1:08 pm
(June 19, 2017 at 12:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: (June 16, 2017 at 7:30 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: It seems if you try to point that out to them, they will either A) Resort to name calling, B) Tell you to shut up and get over it ["We won, you lost] or C) Deflect to Hillary.
I too think Hillary is corrupt, but she is not president right now. So what is so hard for them to understand about this? http://prntscr.com/fkprs3 Here's a screen shot of this discussion.
Well, there is something to the point that if Trump is so freaking bad, how in the world did you guys lose to him?
I have extended family members who are die-hard supporters; say anything bad about Trump and they will blow a piston. None of them are very well educated, and all are into evangelical Christianity. Trump speaks their language and does not talk down to them.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 1:15 pm
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(June 19, 2017 at 12:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: (June 16, 2017 at 7:30 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: It seems if you try to point that out to them, they will either A) Resort to name calling, B) Tell you to shut up and get over it ["We won, you lost] or C) Deflect to Hillary.
I too think Hillary is corrupt, but she is not president right now. So what is so hard for them to understand about this? http://prntscr.com/fkprs3 Here's a screen shot of this discussion.
Well, there is something to the point that if Trump is so freaking bad, how in the world did you guys lose to him?
You mean, how did they lose to him -other- than the whole russian thing....and the voter suppression thing, and the vast swathes of (allegedly) surprising american bigotry thing? Gee, who knows. One would imagine that a corpse could run against a trump and win...but otoh, if a certain dead jew had been the dem candidate you'd have still went trump...so.....?
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 1:17 pm
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(June 19, 2017 at 12:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: (June 16, 2017 at 7:30 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: It seems if you try to point that out to them, they will either A) Resort to name calling, B) Tell you to shut up and get over it ["We won, you lost] or C) Deflect to Hillary.
I too think Hillary is corrupt, but she is not president right now. So what is so hard for them to understand about this? http://prntscr.com/fkprs3 Here's a screen shot of this discussion.
Well, there is something to the point that if Trump is so freaking bad, how in the world did you guys lose to him?
Simple. The number of misinformed, stupid and/or cynically malevolent people in this country combined with the people too unwilling to vote for a viable alternative who didn't meet their purity standards was greater than the number of people willing to do the right thing. Therefore we have elected the abomination known as Trump. Hope that helps.
(June 19, 2017 at 1:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (June 19, 2017 at 12:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: Well, there is something to the point that if Trump is so freaking bad, how in the world did you guys lose to him?
I have extended family members who are die-hard supporters; say anything bad about Trump and they will blow a piston. None of them are very well educated, and all are into evangelical Christianity. Trump speaks their language and does not talk down to them.
Of course technically he isn't capable of talking down to them when he is their peer, informationally.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 1:26 pm
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(June 19, 2017 at 1:17 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (June 19, 2017 at 1:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I have extended family members who are die-hard supporters; say anything bad about Trump and they will blow a piston. None of them are very well educated, and all are into evangelical Christianity. Trump speaks their language and does not talk down to them.
Of course technically he isn't capable of talking down to them when he is their peer, informationally.
Sarah Palin was once accused of thinking that a 'BTU' was a sandwich at Subway; I wonder if Trump is any more knowledgeable.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 1:30 pm
He is stubbornly information resistant.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 1:41 pm
(June 19, 2017 at 1:30 pm)Whateverist Wrote: He is stubbornly information resistant.
Love it; what a great euphemism!
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 2:12 pm
The high Trump polling negatives prior to the election have become the 'resistance' (for lack of a better term) we are seeing now. Kinda obvious with her equivalent polling negatives that Hillary would be beset with a similar/identical result had she won.
IOWs, this effect is an inherent feature of the RNC/DNC nominating strategies of going with candidates with high polling negatives. Since this a unique 'feature' of the last election in that both candidates were essentially equally hated, and in election cycles in the past the parties had the brain power God gave gnats to realize putting up candidates with such high negatives was a bad idea.
There may not, in fact be anything unusual going on then. Had Dewey and Truman each had grotesquely high negatives in their era, might have seen pretty much the same thing playing out then as we do now, just through the 'prism' of the 1950s.
I suppose it would be too much to ask that in future maybe the dems would want to look for candidates with the characteristics of high positives amongst potential dem voters, and a neutral (instead of negative) impression with the other side, but it would be strongly preferable regardless of the consternation adopting such a radical strategy might cause.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 2:25 pm
(June 16, 2017 at 7:30 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: It seems if you try to point that out to them, they will either A) Resort to name calling, B) Tell you to shut up and get over it ["We won, you lost] or C) Deflect to Hillary.
I too think Hillary is corrupt, but she is not president right now. So what is so hard for them to understand about this? http://prntscr.com/fkprs3 Here's a screen shot of this discussion.
A big problem is the criticism is over the top and absurd. Some lady posts about Ben Carson and in wanders some wacko with a diatribe about smoke and fire and evil.
It's not "Trump sure does lie a lot." Or "Trump is pretty scummy around women." It's TRUMP IS JUST LIKE HITLER! And TRUMP ADMITTED HE RAPES PEOPLE!
Everything is over-the-top and has the volume turned up to 11. And then when screaming unsolicited nonsense into people's faces doesn't magically make them come to your side, you get together with the other screamers, and puzzle over how people are so stupid not to be swayed by your wisdom.
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RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 2:55 pm
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(June 19, 2017 at 2:25 pm)wallym Wrote: It's TRUMP IS JUST LIKE HITLER! He is.....the bargain basement 'murica version..but hey, I guess beggars can't be choosers. I'm sure that the alt right would have preferred a far more competent fuhrer. 
Quote:And TRUMP ADMITTED HE RAPES PEOPLE!
He did.......
What's the problem here, again... pointing it out? That's what's ludicrous? Not, you know, the Pres of the US grabbing us by the pussy for a demi-hitler?
Let's move past whatever block you have to seeing the trumpster for what he is. Imagine, for a moment, being a person who does think that what you think is ridiculous, you know..happened. How would you respond in that hypothetical™ situation?
Some variant of shutting your face and knowing your place? Some variant of pacifying the american reich, of trying not to be discourteous? Probably not, in either case, eh?
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