3 Secrets of fatima

[snerie]

Hello, So you can say this is more or less a followup to the miracle of the sun thread although it has little to do in the main event. Now the 3 secrets are visions and prophecy's supposedly spoken by the virgin. The first secret is a vision of hell not really that impressive. The 2nd secret is more interesting. It states that ww1 would end but if mankind does not stop offending god a worst one would follow. it also gives warnings that Russia will spread its error throughout the world causing many wars and that at the end Russia would be converted and the world would enter a period of peace. Now the soviet did spread communism,It caused many wars and and at the end it collapsed. The last is a vision that sees a bishop dressed in white get shot by group of soldiers.

[FatAndFaithless]

That second "vision"... I'm gonna guess that those aren't the exact words. These sorts of prophecies or visions almost always use vague, ambiguous language that can be interpreted in any way you want, much like Nostradamus and horoscopes.

EDIT: I'll be damned, those are the words. However...

Skeptics have noted that the second prophecy was not disclosed until August 1941, after World War II had already begun.[10] They have also questioned whether Mary, in 1917, referred explicitly to Pope Pius XI, as Ambrogio Ratti did not choose that regnal name until after his election in 1922. Further, the European portion of World War II is generally held to have begun on September 1, 1939, and by then, Pope Pius XII had succeeded Pius XI.

If you only reveal a 'prophecy' after some of the conditions are already met...that should raise your skeptic meter a bit.

[LastPoet]

All of them are vague the third revealed in hindsight. Remember that from the 3 little shepherds, 2 of them died of desease, the third, the older and that revealed the 'secrets' was taken to a num. convent of enclausurated nuns.

I am from Portugal. Been there. Its a nice way to fleece money from pilgrims and tourists.

[ignoramus]

take a mouthful of koolaid and before you know it, you're showing in it...

[snerie]

it was first made public in 1941 however it directly says "Russia would spread her error throughout the word causing many wars and persecution of the church and of the holy father. and that at the end 'Russia would be converted and the world would enter a period of peace"

[FatAndFaithless]

it was first made public in 1941 however it directly says "Russia would spread her error throughout the word causing many wars and persecution of the church and of the holy father. and that at the end 'Russia would be converted and the world would enter a period of peace"

When is that period of peace supposed to come? And making a prediction about a superpower being super powerful might be astute, but there's nothing divine or magic about guessing that correctly. The west knew that Russia was going to be a problem, that's why we had the little thing called the cold war.

[snerie]

dun no, War has decreased about a half since the ending of the cold war though. But if it was written or perhaps edited in 1941 it still does not show how it would know that Russia would spread communism throughout the world.

[vorlon13]

Russia strayed from Orthodox Christianity, but is moving back. I'd have to insist the 'prophecy' would have been in regards to Russia becoming Catholic (lest the 3 kids be burned as apostates) so that's another big problem.

Although the kids could be disinterred at this point, subjected to an inquisition, and then burned . . . . .

[snerie]

Yes but orthodox christian's also worship Mary and how could they have known in 1941 that Russia 'would spread its error throughout the world"

[vorlon13]

In the third prophecy the soldiers obviously represent little boys, and the rifles and bullets would be their penises and semen entering the bodies of the pedo priests, bishops and cardinals.

Too bad they didn't interpret that one correctly as a warning of the litigious pedophilia scandal, the church coffers would be vastly richer today if they had.