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So can god end his own existence?
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So can god end his own existence?
Can the god you believe in end his own existence?
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RE: So can god end his own existence?
God committing suicide? Interesting. That's well within the realm of his omnipotence, I'd gather, but once he did so, he'd lose omnipotence. 

Then what?
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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RE: So can god end his own existence?
Well, if not existence how about significance. He can go the way of Santa.
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RE: So can god end his own existence?
Maybe he already has ?

And how would that be different from what we have now ??
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RE: So can god end his own existence?
If not I'm more powerful then god because I could end myself right now
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: So can god end his own existence?
(July 21, 2017 at 8:04 pm)Vast Vision Wrote: Can the god you believe in end his own existence?

Can Clark Kent reveal himself as Superman?

Can Yoda reveal the good side of the force?

Why did Marsha get her nose broken by the football?


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RE: So can god end his own existence?
I don't believe in god so I suppose he can't.

Seriously - sky is the limit, or rather imagination of people believing in particular sky daddy. I see no reason for which deity x couldn't off itself.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

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RE: So can god end his own existence?
According to Thomas Aquinas (and the resultant eight centuries of pretty dreary theology) God cannot end his own existence, or even contemplate doing so.  Two arguments:

1.  God is perfect.  For a perfect being to undergo change renders that being non-perfect.  If God were to end his existence, or even contemplate doing so, he would not be God.

2.  Everything that exists is either necessary (exists for its own sake) or contingent (exists because of the existence of something else).  The universe is contingent upon the existence of God (that is, the universe would not exist if God did not exist).  If the universe did not exist, there would be no possible framework upon which to judge existence or non-existence.  God not existing is therefore a meaningless concept.

(Told you it was dreary).

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: So can god end his own existence?
(July 23, 2017 at 9:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: According to Thomas Aquinas (and the resultant eight centuries of pretty dreary theology) God cannot end his own existence, or even contemplate doing so.  Two arguments:

1.  God is perfect.  For a perfect being to undergo change renders that being non-perfect.  If God were to end his existence, or even contemplate doing so, he would not be God.

2.  Everything that exists is either necessary (exists for its own sake) or contingent (exists because of the existence of something else).  The universe is contingent upon the existence of God (that is, the universe would not exist if God did not exist).  If the universe did not exist, there would be no possible framework upon which to judge existence or non-existence.  God not existing is therefore a meaningless concept.

(Told you it was dreary).

Boru

Aquinas was a delusional idiot. 

But it really does not matter what you name your god regardless. You cannot be logically consistent if you use "all" then put a limit on the word "all". "Can't" puts a limit on the word "all".

The concept of the omimax God is a broken concept and does not work.
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RE: So can god end his own existence?
Quote:Aquinas was a delusional idiot. 

*shrug*  On his worst day, he was smarter than you.  I don't object to the 'delusional' bit, though.

Quote:But it really does not matter what you name your god regardless. You cannot be logically consistent if you use "all" then put a limit on the word "all". "Can't" puts a limit on the word "all".

This is one of those silly objections to a point no one raised.  Nothing in Catholic theology - literally nothing - says God can do anything.  The out they used is 'God cannot do anything that contradicts his nature'. 

Quote:The concept of the omimax God is a broken concept and does not work.


Again, a stupid objection to a point no one raised.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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