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RE: viewing stolen nude photos
August 2, 2017 at 3:11 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 11:30 am)pool the matey Wrote: Women =/= Children, that's a bad comparison but I get your point. So what are the internet people supposed to do? Companies won't be willing to take down pictures which are bringing in traffic, besides that probably goes against their policy. Then what? We could lecture people enough times to make them feel guilty about looking at these naked pictures..
But that wasn't the comparison that I was making. I was saying the idea that "the woman who has had her nudes stolen will not have any change in happiness or comfort by the act of me viewing the pictures" is a shitty one.
I am not saying there is a solution, there probably isn't a pragmatic solution to any problem on the internet. I am merely countering that thought process.
We punish child pornography viewers because the very act of them following/purchasing/downloading/viewing pictures creates a demand for more. It's even more of a direct cause and effect for stolen/hacked nudes, because people can and do talk about it openly and proudly. TMZ/Gawker purchases them for hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.
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RE: viewing stolen nude photos
August 2, 2017 at 4:19 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 5:49 am)ignoramus Wrote: Let's say that it was a famous porn star who had her private personal pictures stolen.
Would it be morally ok to view them? Or will you consider it theft of property? And hence immoral for a different reason? (even though you can readily watch porn vids of the same actress for free on other sites? (I use the term actress loosely)
It would not be morally okay to view the stolen pics of a famous porn star.
Her movies are produced for public consumption, her personal pics are not.
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August 2, 2017 at 5:44 pm
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I agree Beccs. So the definition of an immoral act needs to also include some sort of internal self policing mechanism.?
Is it immoral for most of America to wish Trump accidentally walked in front of a bus!
What about the ultimate immorality of killing thousands of innocent people by calling it collateral damage?
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August 2, 2017 at 5:55 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 5:44 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Is it immoral for most of America to wish Trump accidentally walked in front of a bus!
We're veering off topic here but I just wanted to comment on that part. To be honest, I've always considered that par for the course if you're pursuing a career in politics.
You want to be a politician? You have peoples' living conditions, livelihoods and even their very lives themselves at your whim and mercy. If you fuck things up, don't be shocked at less than civil attitudes towards you. It's not a career for the thin-skinned.
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August 2, 2017 at 8:17 pm
(August 2, 2017 at 5:44 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I agree Beccs. So the definition of an immoral act needs to also include some sort of internal self policing mechanism.?
Is it immoral for most of America to wish Trump accidentally walked in front of a bus!
What about the ultimate immorality of killing thousands of innocent people by calling it collateral damage?
No one is truly innocent.
What we need to do is determine the level of their guilt.
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August 2, 2017 at 8:19 pm
(July 29, 2017 at 2:11 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ...Jennifer Lawrence... nude photos... google...
Thanks for that. Nice Beaver.
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August 2, 2017 at 8:28 pm
I thought they had all gotten taken down by her legal team?
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August 2, 2017 at 8:31 pm
No idea.
This isn't something I've been tracking.
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August 2, 2017 at 8:52 pm
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(August 2, 2017 at 8:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I thought they had all gotten taken down by her legal team? No such thing. The internet is for all intents and purposes, unpoliceable to a vast extent due to jurisdictional non compliance.
For the same reason they can't stop piracy in general.
For the same reason big corporate VPN providers advertise "no logs" policy! The sacred greenback trumps all morality sadly.
For big corp, morality is a minor technical issue easily expunged via a miriad of legal loopholes.
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August 2, 2017 at 8:55 pm
Oh. I know I read somewhere that her legal team was going to go through and get rid of them, so I assumed they weren't out there anymore.
Now I feel bad for having started this thread and brought attention to this.... 
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