I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.
| Poll: Is there any aspect/type of god you as an atheist would be happy to discover existed? This poll is closed. |
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| The biblical god in all his tyrannical, OT bad-assedness. | 1 | 6.67% | |
| Just the loving hippy of the NT. | 0 | 0% | |
| One that is concerned with human conduct and hands out eternal bliss or torture in a life-exit interview. | 1 | 6.67% | |
| One that listens to 'prayers' or reads your mind and chooses life events with your development in mind; the 'world' for this sort of god is a kind of theater with no independent or necessary existence. | 0 | 0% | |
| An all-powerful one that created everything from nothing just the way it is on purpose but has covered his tracks to make natural causes more plausible. | 1 | 6.67% | |
| Not all-powerful, one possessed of some creative powers but not limitless, creating some forms but all from pre-existing substrata, not from 'nothing'. | 4 | 26.67% | |
| One that is drastically older (approaching eternality?) and has seen it all but relates to you-as-consciousness as a kind of benevolent big brother and values your companionship without judgements or need for your worship. | 8 | 53.33% | |
| Total | 15 vote(s) | 100% | |
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August 28, 2017 at 5:23 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2017 at 5:24 pm by Crossless2.0.)
I would be disappointed to learn there is a god so tasteless and lacking in majesty that it is intimately concerned with the likes of us. I already have nosy neighbors.
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August 28, 2017 at 5:27 pm
I can't believe a just god could have created and maintained everything, but it would be cool to have a supernatural big bro. Especially one who isn't a hypocrital, judgemental asshole like the Christian god.
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August 28, 2017 at 5:30 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2017 at 5:32 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
I'd definitely not be happy if any version of any God from the Bible existed.
But there are plenty of genuinely nice Gods I could invent that I'd very much be happy existed. Basically, a God I'd imagine would only intervene in order to prevent horrible disasters or immorality. Or better yet, they'd make such things impossible. One of my gods would actually give everyone permanent blissful happiness from birth, and the desire and ability to live forever in utter painlessness... and no desire or ability to ever harm any other living being. Everyone would be invincible and never feel pain... so it would simply not be possible to ever commit an immoral act. Animals would be invincible and never suffer pain too... if anyone wanted to hunt an animal they couldn't but they could hunt holograms of animals (and no one would ever be capable of desiring hunting an animal that was non-holographic). People could taste meat that would also be holographic, although no one would ever feel hungry, it would purely be for pleasure. And another thing... the constant blissful happiness would always feel like blissful happiness. So no, it would never get boring because if it did... it wouldn't be constant blissful happiness (That whole "Heaven would get boring" thing is one argument I don't agree with. Well, unless we define Heaven as "talking to God" or "praising God" or some shit... WITHOUT the eternal bliss. If eternal bliss is genuinely involved, there is no boredom by definition). I'd say the God of the OT is absolutely horrible to people pre-death... but if the God of the NT and everything they said were true... then that God would be even worse. Because hell is a thing in the NT, but not in the OT. And eternal suffering and torture forever is worse than suffering and torture in one lifetime.  RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.
August 28, 2017 at 5:42 pm
With the way the world works finding out there was a god would mean god was a serious fuckin asshole or not all powerful. I would prefer that he simply isn't powerful enough. You know the older gods had myths that you could beat them because they weren't all over powered and pretend perfect. I think that makes more sense than the newer shit people believe... not that any of it actually makes sense, it just makes more lol.
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”
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August 28, 2017 at 5:49 pm
Hmmm. Yeah. I'd actually feel sorry for God if he was super underpowered and all his followers hyped him (or her (or it)) up so much that it made them seem like a complete asshole by their not doing anything about this world they created. When in reality they had made this world out of love and then realized it had gotten out of control and they couldn't actually stop the horror in the world, and all the stuff their believers said about them being all-powerful was bullshit myth.
Wow I'd actually have sympathy for God if that was true. I've thought about God being "incompetent" or "impotent" before... but not quite in that sympathetic light. Thanks Mooney.  RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.
August 28, 2017 at 6:18 pm
A god that neither needs or wants the worship or even acknowledgement of its creations would be a good start; ie one who creates life not as an ego boost to itself... one that gives free will and truly values and respects it.
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August 28, 2017 at 6:25 pm
(August 28, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: I would be happy to know the answer to the question of whether or not there is a god, but I can't say whether or not I would be happy if god was shown to be real, because I don't know what this god would be like. I would be really confused. But if this God was still love and goodness itself, then I would still be happy.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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August 28, 2017 at 7:15 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2017 at 7:17 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(August 28, 2017 at 6:18 pm)emjay Wrote: A god that neither needs or wants the worship or even acknowledgement of its creations would be a good start; ie one who creates life not as an ego boost to itself... one that gives free will and truly values and respects it. If only a concept of free will that were more than just a labeling of not having free will as "free will" were even logically coherent. There isn't a God that could make free will, due to that coherence. All that can be done with free will is label something that's indistinguishable from its non-existence as "free will".... kind of like God really. If we didn't call doing something "of one's own free will", "free will", would there be any difference? Nope. Saying someone did something "on purpose" (whether their intentional action was done of their own free will or not!) would suffice.  RE: I'd like to ask my fellow atheists if they would be happy to learn there was a god.
August 28, 2017 at 7:17 pm
I think it would be neat to know for certain whether or not there is a God, and which one, if any of the ones that have been believed in. But I don't believe in a God, nor do I want to find out there is a God. To me, science in all its evolutionary goodness is gorgeous, whether or not we know or understand all the laws of physics.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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August 28, 2017 at 7:22 pm
After the sorry demonstrations of believers over all these years I'd be amazed if any of their shit was true.
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