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Quote:Nowhere in the world do people hold religion in such low regard as in Belgium

Yesterday at 03:00 by Frank Poosen
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The Belgians are completely out of God's grace. Two out of three Belgians believe that religion does more harm than good. This is concluded from an internation study from the renowned research-bureau Ipsos. In no other Western country is that number that high. "Religion is not coming over well these last few decennia", says Rik Torfs. "And that is, for a large part, their own fault."

Relgion, its good for nothing. That is, shortly put, the Belgians attitude. The small, god-fearing Belgium is no more, Ipsos' study seems to imply. The research posed questions in 24 countries, from the United States to Argentina to Japan, about how the 21st-century human relates to religion. Barely, is the answer. In our country 68% of the questioned see religion as a force for evil. The average is 49 percent, no other country is quite so turned off by religion.
Why this is, Ipsos doesn't say. But Rik Torfs, professor in Canon Law, doesn't find it surprising at all. "Belgium is a very secularized country. We banned the influence of the church from almost all domains of society. That has its reasons. In the past there has been quite some misuse of power, many people suffered traumas because of that. Those bad feelings are passed on from generation to generation."

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Rik Torfs: "The bishops might do well to communicate properly once in a while." Foto: fb

But make no mistake, says Patrick Loobuyck, moral-philosopher with a specialisation in religion at the University of Gent: "Belgians are no anti-catholics. But the pedophilia-schandals of the recent decennia within the Catholic Church, in combination with the terrorism inspired by Islam, lead to a general dislike of all that smells of religion."

"Religion is an ambivalent phenomenon", says Loobuyck. "It brings out the best - charity, respect - and the worst - bombings in the name of a God - in people. That has always been the case and will always remain the same. In this moment the negative feelings are gaining ground amongst people. When there are murders committed  in the name of religion, or when certain religious people  abuse their power, a general sense of dislike reigns. And then its no surprise that we in Belgium are at the forefront of the world in believing religion cause more harm than good."

"We even score higher than the French", says Torfs. "And that is saying something. Because if there is one people that have banned religion, its the French. But they did it so thoroughly - and so long ago - that they are clearly not bothered by it anymore." The French are eight in that line-up, with 61%.

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"Religion is not coming over well these last few decennia", says Rik Torfs. "And that is, for a large part, their own fault. The [Catholic] Church, and other religions, have an image-problem. And no-one has the perfect solution for that. It might decrease over time, but for example the bishops might do well to communicate properly once in a while. That's not happening right  now, which makes them increasingly less familiar. And that often means less loved."


Source: http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20171016_03134292
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I love Belgium now.

* Edwardo Piet starts eating chocolate, horses and chocolate horses
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And waffles!
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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(October 17, 2017 at 1:48 pm)Hammy Wrote: I love Belgium now.

* Hammy starts eating chocolate, horses and chocolate horses

I present to you the horse of Brabant, fitted into chocolate form for our holiday of Sinterklaas on the sixth of december.
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- Your mum, last night, suggesting 69.
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Quote:We banned the influence of the church from almost all domains of society

And without the ability to force belief on others, religion has no real means to spread. The best it can do is use certain aspects to convince people to be nicer, but that doesn't make people more pious.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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Bravo, Belgium.

Time to turn the churches into Wi-Fi cafes or whorehouses....something useful!
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Well done to Belgium.

Next, the rest of the world.
Dying to live, living to die.
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I knew we raised Belgians for a reason.

Woof jesus out your arf!
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Good for you guys! I wish Sweden could get it together and realize the same thing...
"History is something that very few people have been doing while everyone else was ploughing fields and carrying water buckets." -Yuval Noah Harari
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I had a waffle this morning. But it was cinnamon Eggo, with butter and boysenberry syrup.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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