Apocalypse might be your fault after all

[brewer]

It must be your fault Brewer, I don't see how it could be mine.
Just don't flap, for everyone's sake.

Oh I'm flapping buddy, I'm flapping. 

(where the fuck did those "l"'s come from?)

[The Grand Nudger]

The takeaway being that it's the fault of the Great Satan, not the innocent weaponless terrorists.  

The irony being that the most credible threat of a nuke at present would be a dirty bomb set off by...wait for it..terrorists.

[WinterHold]

If you take pride in your country; feel satisfied with the human race of today, feel happy and proud with the result of the industrial age, then my opinion is that you need to watch the video; and be reminded daily with what your ancestors did 80 years ago.

Atomic bombs can literally melt your eyes inside their eye-sockets just seconds from the explosion.
North Korea threatens the whole world with them.
The U.S already used them in the 40s, and again in Iraq on a small scale.
Britain showed the intent to use the weapons, and even said that it will.

So..no; you need to be lectured about it daily.

But the video is old news.  Asking me to watch it is an unwarranted presumption on your part that I don't already know the history of nuclear weapons and the state (both political and technical) of the nuclear arsenal today.  I do.  It would be a waste of my time to watch a vid that tells me what I'm aware of.

For the record, my 'ancestors' had nothing to do with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, nor with the development of nuclear weapons (even if they had, so what?  I will not be held responsible for the heinous actions of other people).

Could you please provide information about the US use of nuclear weapons in Iraq?

Boru

My ancestors are also responssible; even my parents are if they supported nationalism. Your ancestors and my ancestors were partly responsible if they supported bowing to flags and worshiping colors on cloths; that led to unexplained tension and never ending hate.

If the world wasn't cut like a cake between different tribes, countries and communities, things wouldn't have reached this dark, grim reality. I'm blaming all nationalists, even my own parents, my own family, my own friends, anybody who agreed to be led by empty dreams of glory. A glory humans shouldn't get; and never suits them.

The U.S used "Silver Bullets" in the Iraq war; which is a radioactive weapon developed from nuclear waste, and used by American forces in the Iraq War:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_u...population

The use of radioactive weapons like that, caused mutations and moralities between Iraqi children, and moreover it's a very low thing to use atomic waste as ammo to escape the hammer of accusations of "anti human rights acts".

[The Grand Nudger]

AKA armor piercing shells.

[WinterHold]

Atlass, don't say "you", it would be more accurate to say, "our species" in terms of evolution.

And "apocalypse" is a mythological word. In reality humans can kill ourselves off sure, but there will be no Sky Wizard battling a ground troll using humans as poker chips in a global nuclear war.

Unfortunately our species evolved in a time of scientific ignorance, and also we still far too widely adapt what our parents sell us at birth. As others have correctly stated, far too often we put emotions above logic. Our species is quite capable of killing itself off unfortunately. But we also fortunately have it within ourselves to seek cooperation and have empathy. So it still ultimately is up to us how we move forward.

5 billion years from now humans will be long since extinct. Earth has had 5 mass extinction events since evolution started. The only difference with humans is that our cognition we stupidly think makes us superior instead of being one species among many. Our self preservation has manifested itself into something no other species has, in that of anthropomorphic superstition.

We cannot help what the cosmos does to us no, but we can refrain from war when we chose. We have the brains if we choose to solve issues of pollution and poverty and we should work on a meteor defense system. Unfortunately right now we have too many egos in power wasting human resources on protecting their power.

Humanity is weak; if I was to admit something I'll admit that all of us are weak, so all of us are prone to thoughts and ideas of oppressing the other and take everything they have, choose shortcuts without any care about how many people we step on in the way.

We can take the right choice, but if we gave in the temptations of corruption; our choices would be corrupted too. Human weakness is not an excuse though; evolution also affected the human brain; not just the body.

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The takeaway being that it's the fault of the Great Satan, not the innocent weaponless terrorists.  

The irony being that the most credible threat of a nuke at present would be a dirty bomb set off by...wait for it..terrorists.

1-Manufacture the Nuke
2-Use it
3-Use nuclear waste as a weapon
4-Object when terrorists do what you do
5-Look in the mirror: you are the terrorist; the great Satan is so satisfied
Save

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AKA armor piercing shells.

No; AKA "Depleted Uranium" which is radioactive, dirty, causes mutations and poisons the environment and the people's DNA too.
The U.S army's way of teaching others "manors".

DU is it's "AKA". Uranium is just a heavy word. So they use stuff like "silver bullet/ armor piercing shells...etc". But the reality is that its Depleted Uranium. Nuclear leftovers from the operation of harvesting nuclear energy.

[Brian37]

But the video is old news.  Asking me to watch it is an unwarranted presumption on your part that I don't already know the history of nuclear weapons and the state (both political and technical) of the nuclear arsenal today.  I do.  It would be a waste of my time to watch a vid that tells me what I'm aware of.

For the record, my 'ancestors' had nothing to do with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, nor with the development of nuclear weapons (even if they had, so what?  I will not be held responsible for the heinous actions of other people).

Could you please provide information about the US use of nuclear weapons in Iraq?

Boru

My ancestors are also responssible; even my parents are if they supported nationalism. Your ancestors and my ancestors were partly responsible if they supported bowing to flags and worshiping colors on cloths; that led to unexplained tension and never ending hate.

If the world wasn't cut like a cake between different tribes, countries and communities, things wouldn't have reached this dark, grim reality. I'm blaming all nationalists, even my own parents, my own family, my own friends, anybody who agreed to be led by empty dreams of glory. A glory humans shouldn't get; and never suits them.

The U.S used "Silver Bullets" in the Iraq war; which is a radioactive weapon developed from nuclear waste, and used by American forces in the Iraq War:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_u...population

The use of radioactive weapons like that, caused mutations and moralities between Iraqi children, and moreover it's a very low thing to use atomic waste as ammo to escape the hammer of accusations of "anti human rights acts".

ATLASS we get it and we are glad we have our pet "terrorist" who makes neat Muslim versions of McGyver gadgets agreeing with us. <-----NOTE TO ALL READERS, this is SARCASM, dark humor.

Nobody is going to disagree, or should I say, should disagree that the East and Islam, Sunni and Shiite are stuck further in the past than the rest of the world as far as theocratic thought. 

But even in the more open pluralistic west even we have our problems and we have our nuts bent on religious based holy book based bat shittery. <----That part is serious, not sarcastic.

China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and America, including all other nations, not enough humans want to understand we are not a separate species. Our respective powers are all part of the same global market and unfortunately ideology sells , fear sells and war sells. It is up to the sane to constantly point this out and combat this.

I don't blame human ancestors worldwide for not knowing better. You are not responsible for what your ancestors did 1400 years ago, anymore than I am responsible for what my ancestors did 1900 years ago. Nor are today's Chinese responsible for what Chairman Mo did.

But I do agree that if an individual who values non violence and compassion, it is certainly up to all worldwide whom value that, to remember the past and demand we avoid the horrors of the past.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Worse sock puppet of the century. "Manors"?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The U.S used "Silver Bullets" in the Iraq war; which is a radioactive weapon developed from nuclear waste, and used by American forces in the Iraq War:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_u...population

The use of radioactive weapons like that, caused mutations and moralities between Iraqi children, and moreover it's a very low thing to use atomic waste as ammo to escape the hammer of accusations of "anti human rights acts".

Yeah, not letting you get away with that.  There is a world of difference between radioactive weapons and nuclear weapons.  Bullets and armour made from depleted uranium can in no rational sense be classified as 'nuclear weapons'.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

This thread needs a dose of reality, lol.

DU rounds are explicitly used for their greater penetrative profile. If we wanted to irradiate or poison people..we have better weapons to do that with.  Their use in the middle east was largely -not- tank busting, but shooting through concrete reenforced firing positions.  With a DU round, you can hit the people on one floor without risking the people on the next, or in the next room..for that matter.  You have to worry about or accept damage to buildings or people -behind- the target, but them's the breaks.  Famously, Iraqi tanks in desert storm tried to use busted tanks for cover, but the du 120 smoothbore fired through the dead tanks and hit the target behind.   

The choice facing a du user is thus;  

Take fire from an enemy rpg, blast the room with du, or take down the entire building with he.  In order to reduce collateral damage, including civilian casualties, du is preferred over he (obviously letting some asshole fling rockets at you is a non-option).  The problem, after action, with du rounds isn't so much that they're radioactive, it's that they're poisonous - like all heavy metal rounds.

[vorlon13]

Armor piercing ordnance is a FAR more benign use for the material than as the tertiary stage in a Teller-Ulam device.