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Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma, as explained in the post below. What do you do?
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Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
#31
RE: Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
I can see Ham's point. If there is a crime involved, the moral thing to do is probably to be honest about it to law enforcement, even if that means getting someone in trouble for it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#32
RE: Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
Jesus, how many girl scout cookies did we steal?
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#33
RE: Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
(November 25, 2017 at 4:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I can see Ham's point. If there is a crime involved, the moral thing to do is probably to be honest about it to law enforcement, even if that means getting someone in trouble for it.

I guess if I was a criminal I probably wouldn't snitch, really. But I think I should. But then I probably should not do the crime in the first place either right? Tongue

And in reality, maybe I wouldn't snitch on a criminal if I was terrifed that they would beat the shit out of me if I did. But I think that would be a moral failing on my part. What I would do is very different to what I should do.

I often take the least moral option out of cowardice or selfishness.

I lost my virginity to a married woman when I was 25, and I think that was immoral of me too. Slightly. I did that out of pure sexual desperation, being a 25 year old virgin. Although I was single myself and I think it would have been far more immoral if I myself had been in a relationship, and cheating itself is far more immoral than allowing someone to cheat with you when you yourself aren't cheating, but I still think it would have been the morally better option for me to, somehow, resist that insanely strong temptation. The fact she seduced me and she kept seducing me when I tried to resist, didn't help. But I still think I should have somehow resisted.

Of course many people say that if she didn't cheat with me she would have cheated with someone else, and she probably already had and she probably cheated after she cheated with me too . . . but I still think that if I could have resisted, that would have been the morally superior option.

I think I am often biased towards my friends to an immoral extent also. And I actually value friendship above morality. Which is very selfish of me, I do it because I like my friends and I enjoy friendship. I don't think it's moral for me to value people I like over people who are probably just as nice but I don't get along with. But I do that anyway.

I probably care about being a nice person more than being a good person too (which probably is the same thing as valuing friendship over morality). I'm very selfish and I'd rather seem good and be bad than be good and seem bad.
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#34
RE: Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
(November 25, 2017 at 4:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I can see Ham's point. If there is a crime involved, the moral thing to do is probably to be honest about it to law enforcement, even if that means getting someone in trouble for it.

It seems to me that the dilemma necessarily involves criminal participants so I think any assumption regarding morality have already been thrown out the window.
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#35
RE: Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
Yeah, I think I got lost and forgot whether I was being asked what I would do in that situation or being asked what I should do in that situation. Very different responses based on what I would do or what I should do. What I should do is suddenly behave non-criminally after strangely committing a crime that I'd never commit in the first place Tongue
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#36
RE: Poll: You're in the Prisoner's Dilemma.
(November 25, 2017 at 5:00 pm)Aegon Wrote: Jesus, how many girl scout cookies did we steal?

A semi trailer full.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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