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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 3:28 pm
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(January 16, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 16, 2018 at 3:15 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I would say that God is already a known concept; so replacing his name with "aliens" don't quite solve anything.
In other words; ancient Greek mythology differs a little from your "average Hollywood alien". What's the difference between mount Olympus & the Mothership; really?
It looks like each civilization on the face of earth concluded a certain "form" of aliens: for the Greeks it was Zeus and his gang; to ancient Egyptians it is Ra and his family,...etc.
So, the sentence both theories have in common, is that we are "created"; "made"..
And we know that to be false.
Seems to have left "Allah" out, very popular "form" of aliens..at present. In any case, I tyhink that you're giving the similarities a short shrift, Atlas. Theres more than just the proposition of the creator in both. They're both (magic books and sci fi creature features) attempts to narrate and provide commentary on the human condition..as seen by whomever wrote them..and the creatures in question whether we call them gods or aliens serve as a foil in setting up a very human drama.
It's an observation that strikes me whenever a religious person starts complaining about god having taken a back seat. God started out in the back seat, preftext for the human elements of the story. It's not surprising to find him there.
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 4:55 pm
(January 16, 2018 at 3:21 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: I'm certain we were created by aliens. The fact that they haven't contacted us means nothing more than that we're not quite ripe yet.
Eddie Redmayne will be along shortly.
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 5:12 pm
(January 16, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (January 16, 2018 at 3:15 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I would say that God is already a known concept; so replacing his name with "aliens" don't quite solve anything.
In other words; ancient Greek mythology differs a little from your "average Hollywood alien". What's the difference between mount Olympus & the Mothership; really?
It looks like each civilization on the face of earth concluded a certain "form" of aliens: for the Greeks it was Zeus and his gang; to ancient Egyptians it is Ra and his family,...etc.
So, the sentence both theories have in common, is that we are "created"; "made"..
And we know that to be false.
Yep. A god that created the Universe in six days, that made stars as lamps for signs and seasons, and flooded the world for no result? That cunt we can safely say doesn't exist.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 5:28 pm
(January 16, 2018 at 2:43 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (January 16, 2018 at 1:26 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: I sayed may didn't I ? The fact is that scientists haven't come with a conclusion about this , and it was received 41 years ago. Soo it may very well be alien life wich is not a taboo , in my eyes they have a 50% chance to exist.
If we're setting odds on the existence of aliens they're probably quite a bit higher than that..even as the odds of human beings having ever come into contact with that life approach a null value. The difference between existence and contact as propositions is as vast as the space between hypothetical life.
It's a depressing thought, really. We may be living in a universe teeming with life that will never make contact with other life. Just a bunch of lonely drifters.
I sayed 50% because I divided it into 2 options:
1. That the universe is still young ( 13 billions but for eternity how much doest that mean ) and other higlly intelligent forms of life haven't developed.
2. They exist but are that tehnolgically evolved to make contact and neither are us .
Of course there are many possibilities but I'll stick to that in the matter of existence or better not yet existing( we can't say that alien life won't occur).
And if the multiverse theory is provided I think that the probability is 1.
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 5:40 pm
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The trouble isn't really the probability of extraterrestrial life, or advanced extraterrestrial life. The trouble is that there's no reason or evidence to suggest that "alien transmission" is even a safe -assumption- for the origin of that signal... regardless of whether there's extraterrestrial life, or advanced extraterrestrial life.
The one does not rationally inform the other, or have an effect on probability setting.
You know, for example, that there are people living in the house next to you. That doesn't lead you to posit that everything flying over your roof that you can't explain comes out of their window. Feel me? Assume that the probability of aliens or nextdoor neighbors is unity - that they exist. What does that have to do with the stuff that careens over your house?
The parallel to ufo stories above was entirely unintentional, btw..but I think equally instructive.
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 5:46 pm
Yeah , I was thinking that you were arguing my probability of extraterestrial life , didn't thinked that it was about the probability of the signal beeing from them , my bad. The origin of the signal has a lot of options , the one that Minimalist presented seems quite plausible.
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 5:49 pm
There's a pile of shit on my front lawn. What's the odds that it was
Neighbourhood dogs/cats/foxes
Neighbours
Horses
Unicorns
Aliens
and how might we test for that?
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 16, 2018 at 5:51 pm
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The odds between 1 and 2 shift back and forth depending on where you live. 
I want to shit on my neighbors lawn before I die. I'll pay the fine..I'd even do a night in jail. Imma wait till I'm like 80 though, so I can plead senility. So the odds go up for 2 drastically on my property line.
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 17, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Riddle me this..
Is God of/from earth? then does that not make him an alien?
Better yet. Does God live on earth? yet the claim is he lives in heaven which is not of this earth.
Now doesn't that make God a trans-dimensional alien by modern terms?
If you believe aliens ha anything to do with creation why can't that being have the title 'god?'
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RE: Do you think aliens made us
January 17, 2018 at 3:17 pm
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If you're content with the proposition that your "god" is actually some air breather from mars or other dimension mars..that;s your call. Not anyone elses. I call aliens aliens, it somehow seems more accurate than conflating them with a fictional character in magic book.
-but don;t get upset when we insist that you stick to it......
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