Donald Trump wants to arm teachers with guns

[Minimalist]

You ARE a moron, Adolf.  No getting around that.

Meanwhile, Colbert addressed the issue last night.

[A Theist]

Fuck the EU and elsewhere. That's their concern. I'm saying that if we're going to take on the gun control issue here in the US you can't ignore the high gun violence by criminals and gang members with illegal guns in some of our cities with strict gun laws. Evidently the stricter gun laws aren't working in those cities. How would the pro gun control people deal with that issue?

Well, if you don't want to take lessons from places where things work, then maybe you deserve being on the news every other week for a reason that is a rarity in the rest of the world.

I don't understand how you can claim one city to have strict gun laws.
What does that mean?
On that one patch of land inside the city limits, you can't buy guns?... so you buy them out of city limits and carry them inside? Is that what makes those guns illegal there? (I truly don't know, I'm asking!)
A car ride to the nearest town to buy guns doesn't seem out of place, there...
How would they enforce that law?... metal detectors on every road and pathway into the city? Cars are made of metal... commuting must be a pain!

You said you had suggestions from places where things work. That's what I was asking you. What suggestions do you have for cities like Chicago who have strict gun laws but have high gun death rates by criminals and gang members with illegal guns. What would you suggest for Chicago, for example, that works in your country?

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You ARE a moron, Adolf.  No getting around that.

Meanwhile, Colbert addressed the issue last night.

You ARE naive, Josef. Definitely no getting around that one.

A comedy skit from Colbert. Well, I'm convinced.

[Cyberman]

How would they enforce that law?... metal detectors on every road and pathway into the city? Cars are made of metal... commuting must be a pain!

Actually, that probably wouldn't be a bad idea. Make it all very inconvenient, impose a tax to fund it and make it clear that the gun nuts are to blame. As a result of various bombers and hijackers over the years, everyone now has to endure all sorts of humiliating, time-consuming security checks at airports. I had cause to visit a local court building several weeks ago, where the security checkpoint was backed up into the street. We tolerate this kind of personal intrusion in these areas of modern society, understand it even. Why not get used to it in the public streets?

[pocaracas]

Well, if you don't want to take lessons from places where things work, then maybe you deserve being on the news every other week for a reason that is a rarity in the rest of the world.

I don't understand how you can claim one city to have strict gun laws.
What does that mean?
On that one patch of land inside the city limits, you can't buy guns?... so you buy them out of city limits and carry them inside? Is that what makes those guns illegal there? (I truly don't know, I'm asking!)
A car ride to the nearest town to buy guns doesn't seem out of place, there...
How would they enforce that law?... metal detectors on every road and pathway into the city? Cars are made of metal... commuting must be a pain!

You said you had suggestions from places where things work. That's what I was asking you. What suggestions do you have for cities like Chicago who have strict gun laws but have high gun death rates  by criminals and gang members with illegal guns. What would you suggest for Chicago, for example, that works in your country?

First, what works, works at the national level. Not just one city here or there. That seems to be just completely impractical.

Second, permits are required to purchase a gun.
Permits have several degrees which limit what kind of gun you can purchase.
You apply for a permit, after gathering the required paperwork, including a medical examination and an examination that certifies that you are fit to carry a weapon and insurance (for at least 100k€).It seems that some 80~90% of all applications for self-protection get refused - apparently, because the authorities understand that the people requiring these licenses are not really in need of such protection: http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/armas/civis/psp-...-de-defesa.
Permits need to be renewed every 5 years, they don't last forever. If your permit runs out, an official will ask you to return the weapon. You will get a compensation for that loss of property, of course.
When you die, your permit automatically runs out and your weapons can be confiscated from the heirs, unless they present a valid permit and deal with the ownership details.
This confiscation is in the form of a letter and you are the one who has to go to their premises and return the weapons, within some time period. Failure to do so leads to you being considered a criminal. The crime is possession of forbidden weapons. And that is a good way to have your home visited by the authorities.
All guns are registered in some central registry, just like cars. That's how the authorities know how many guns to confiscate.
Of course, all illegal guns are out of this loop.

Illegal weapons are confiscated without any compensation when they are spotted by the authorities and possibly destroyed.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

You said you had suggestions from places where things work. That's what I was asking you. What suggestions do you have for cities like Chicago who have strict gun laws but have high gun death rates  by criminals and gang members with illegal guns. What would you suggest for Chicago, for example, that works in your country?

First, what works, works at the national level. Not just one city here or there. That seems to be just completely impractical.

Second, permits are required to purchase a gun.
Permits have several degrees which limit what kind of gun you can purchase.
You apply for a permit, after gathering the required paperwork, including a medical examination and an examination that certifies that you are fit to carry a weapon and insurance (for at least 100k€).It seems that some 80~90% of all applications for self-protection get refused - apparently, because the authorities understand that the people requiring these licenses are not really in need of such protection: http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/armas/civis/psp-...-de-defesa.
Permits need to be renewed every 5 years, they don't last forever. If your permit runs out, an official will ask you to return the weapon. You will get a compensation for that loss of property, of course.
When you die, your permit automatically runs out and your weapons can be confiscated from the heirs, unless they present a valid permit and deal with the ownership details.
This confiscation is in the form of a letter and you are the one who has to go to their premises and return the weapons, within some time period. Failure to do so leads to you being considered a criminal. The crime is possession of forbidden weapons. And that is a good way to have your home visited by the authorities.
All guns are registered in some central registry, just like cars. That's how the authorities know how many guns to confiscate.
Of course, all illegal guns are out of this loop.

Illegal weapons are confiscated without any compensation when they are spotted by the authorities and possibly destroyed.

The commies love that plan.

[I_am_not_mafia]

How many illegal guns that the police and local authorities don't know about would you estimate are in the hands of criminals in our cities?  How would the anti second amendment proponents go about getting those off the streets?

When someone with an illegal gun gets arrested, or the gun is found. Take it off them and destroy it. This and restricting the number of guns that can be owned means that over time the problem is solved.

Works in every other fucking country in the world.

[Minimalist]

Well, if you don't want to take lessons from places where things work, then maybe you deserve being on the news every other week for a reason that is a rarity in the rest of the world.

I don't understand how you can claim one city to have strict gun laws.
What does that mean?
On that one patch of land inside the city limits, you can't buy guns?... so you buy them out of city limits and carry them inside? Is that what makes those guns illegal there? (I truly don't know, I'm asking!)
A car ride to the nearest town to buy guns doesn't seem out of place, there...
How would they enforce that law?... metal detectors on every road and pathway into the city? Cars are made of metal... commuting must be a pain!

You said you had suggestions from places where things work. That's what I was asking you. What suggestions do you have for cities like Chicago who have strict gun laws but have high gun death rates  by criminals and gang members with illegal guns. What would you suggest for Chicago, for example, that works in your country?

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You ARE a moron, Adolf.  No getting around that.

Meanwhile, Colbert addressed the issue last night.

You ARE naive, Josef. Definitely no getting around that one.

A comedy skit from Colbert. Well, I'm convinced.

You're a nazi asshole.  Nothing will convince you unless your fuhrer smacks you in the mouth and says something else.  I regard you as little more than entertainment.

[Whateverist]

How many illegal guns that the police and local authorities don't know about would you estimate are in the hands of criminals in our cities?  How would the anti second amendment proponents go about getting those off the streets?

When someone with an illegal gun gets arrested, or the gun is found. Take it off them and destroy it. This and restricting the number of guns that can be owned means that over time the problem is solved.

Works in every other fucking country in the world.

My personal preference would be to make sure we have enough jack boots to go around and then send the military in to confiscate every gun in America.  I've never balked at taking a gun out of a cold dead hand.  Hell that would just make the job easier.

[I_am_not_mafia]

When someone with an illegal gun gets arrested, or the gun is found. Take it off them and destroy it. This and restricting the number of guns that can be owned means that over time the problem is solved.

Works in every other fucking country in the world.

My personal preference would be to make sure we have enough jack boots to go around and then send the military in to confiscate every gun in America.  I've never balked at taking a gun out of a cold dead hand.  Hell that would just make the job easier.

That would work. Most of them would give up their guns the moment they're faced with a genuine threat because up until then they only thought they were tough because they had a bang stick that they took out to the range every weekend. A bit like the armed guard who decided not to confront the latest shooter with an AR 15 in fact.

[A Theist]

How many illegal guns that the police and local authorities don't know about would you estimate are in the hands of criminals in our cities?  How would the anti second amendment proponents go about getting those off the streets?

When someone with an illegal gun gets arrested, or the gun is found. Take it off them and destroy it. This and restricting the number of guns that can be owned means that over time the problem is solved.

Works in every other fucking country in the world.

How about harsher punishments against those who use guns in a criminal act?