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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:40 pm
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Khemikal, as usual, you can't move from one perspective to another. You're stuck on assuming the worst out of the ancient people and their texts.
(March 31, 2018 at 12:40 pm)Grandizer Wrote: (March 31, 2018 at 12:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Whether you acknowledge it or not, the ancients had our sense of compassion and justice, and this how they dealt with war. This how they deterred war, they made consequences for it.
Otherwise, no one would care for peace, the worst thing that can happen if it were not for spoils of war, is you change rulers, and that is no big deal.
You talk about compassion, but a lot of the verses in the Qur'an don't come off as very compassionate.
And sure, the ancients had compassion and justice and all that, but for whom? Certainly not the poor people they waged war against, and definitely not for those taken in as slaves to be treated as subhuman. We know from history and from observing today's world that such atrocities have, and still, happen(ed). And if there were a compassionate god out there, I would argue that we would be in a far better world than we are in now, one with far less suffering and far more compassion for others. But we don't live in that world, we live here instead. So I don't see the odds of such a god existing to be anywhere close to good.
I understand your perspective. I been there. It takes time, just keep reflecting and try to put more then one type of shade glasses you see the color of the world by.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:48 pm
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(March 31, 2018 at 12:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Khemikal, as usual, you can't move from one perspective to another. You're stuck on assuming the worst out of the ancient people and their texts.
Whose assuming anything? We know what the "ancient people" did (kind of a misnomer, islamism is a newborn culture relative to most), and we know why they did it and what magic book says about it. I'm not assuming anything of them, let alone the worst. I;m simply noting that this is what they did, and that what they did was advised to them in the book they took to be the word of god..as you do now.
None of these things are open questions. The above is a known quantity. The open question..what I can't figure out for the life of me, is why any of you feel compelled to engage in slavery apologism in general, sex slavery apologism in specific......... now...........today.
Do you not know better...and if you do, why didn't allah? If we "keep reflecting" will we suddenly come to the conclusion that this was just and good in -any- century, for -any- people-, for -any- reason? Did you?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:51 pm
Yeah instead we nuke two cities while threatening the whole nation to be nuked to justify saving lives but can't understand sex-slavery as a deterrent.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:52 pm
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Other people do bad shit too...and? Is this allahs justification..does he agree with this sort of excuse? Is he a god of spite and hypocrisy?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:55 pm
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There has to be evil consequences to war or it would have been endless.
What is funny is you defended nuking before but can't handle this idea.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:56 pm
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We've already established that the sex trade god approves of in magic book wasn't a consequence of war anyway. It was it's own means and it's own end.
Are you stuck on an irrelevant loop because you can't even justify your own god to yourself?
Is this somehow supposed to be the only thing to deter war..when in fact it was the reason people went to war..to keep the caliphate from continually stealing their fucking daughters as sex dolls? Did god not see that coming?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Ah, I don't agree with your assessment. It's an evil consequence.
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 1:00 pm
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Defending nulkings.? LOL, more of the same. You excuse your own failures, and the failures of your god..by someone else's -imagined- failures.
-and now we're back to those whores deserving it. God is a slaving god who approves of the sex trafficking of children because they or their fathers deserved it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 1:02 pm
As I said it's good to free-slaves and they don't necessarily deserve it (and don't if they were children).
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RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 31, 2018 at 1:03 pm
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You argue against yourself, and you argue against your god? Does anything happen that isn't the will of allah? Does allah will that these girls be slaves even though they don't deserve it? Does allah will that men purchase them even though he doesn;t approve? Does allah will that mistakes be made in magic book?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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