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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:30 pm
Quote:I've studied more science than you think. Do you realize how much science is involved in mechanical engineering studies and application?
Clearly you have not
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:30 pm
(May 12, 2018 at 10:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 12, 2018 at 10:22 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: We aren’t making any arguments. You are making a positive argument (a conscious, intelligent mind created life on earth) and we are pointing out the flaws in that argument. If your argument for ID is, “I can’t imagine how it could have happened naturally,” then your whole argument is grounded in a logical fallacy.
It's not that I can't imagine how it happened naturally, it's that it couldn't have happened naturally.
(May 12, 2018 at 10:22 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: You have no idea what science is. You think science is nothing more than another artifact of theism’s oldest and most revered practice of making shit up with conviction and inventing words to make them sound weighty. All you know is science seem to work and impress a lot of people, so you see nothing wrong misapplying the vocabulary of science to makeup shit from your religion.
I've studied more science than you think. Do you realize how much science is involved in mechanical engineering studies and application?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:32 pm
(May 12, 2018 at 10:24 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:I always try to be honest.
Then you have failed
Quote: It is the atheist who have only their own standard of morals per individual.
Nope not all atheists are moral relativists many are moral realists . And theistic morality is utter garbage .
Quote:That leads to things like what happened in Nazi Germany.
No it didn't . Nazism was a system that held to moral objectivity and traditionalism . The Nazi did not say in their opinion it was okay to kill the jews . They said it was a an objective moral imperative that the jews die . And most Nazis were theists and Germany was highly religious .And most of the Nazi's attrocites were right at home in theistic circles .
Quote:In 1543 Luther published On the Jews and Their Lies in which he says that the Jews are a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."[14] They are full of the "devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine."[15] The synagogue was a "defiled bride, yes, an incorrigible whore and an evil slut ..."[16] He argues that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer booksdestroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness,[17] afforded no legal protection,[18] and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time.[19] He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "[w]e are at fault in not slaying them".[20] Luther claims that Jewish history was "assailed by much heresy", and that Christ swept away the Jewish heresy and goes on to do so, "as it still does daily before our eyes." He stigmatizes Jewish Prayer as being "blasphemous" (sic) and a lie, and vilifies Jews in general as being spiritually "blind" and "surely possessed by all devils." Luther has a special spiritual problem with Jewish circumcision.[21][22] The full context in which Martin Luther advocated that Jews be slain in On the Jews and Their Liesis as follows in Luther's own words:
Why are the most villainous claims made here without quotation marks?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:35 pm
Quote:They were into the occult and into survival of the fittest trying to build an improved world by killing those that were sick or had some kind of conditions. That is what I am referring to.
Ideas that have nothing to do with Atheism . And survival of the fittest has existed way before evolution was discovered .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:37 pm
(May 12, 2018 at 10:35 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:They were into the occult and into survival of the fittest trying to build an improved world by killing those that were sick or had some kind of conditions. That is what I am referring to.
Ideas that have nothing to do with Atheism . And survival of the fittest has existed way before evolution was discovered .
The movie Expelled goes into more detail on this.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:38 pm
Maybe I'm being too subtle here. CDF is a Poe, His replies are designed to elicit a reaction. It'd be nifty to know his actual thoughts are but c'est la vie.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:41 pm
(May 12, 2018 at 9:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 12, 2018 at 9:42 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I well aware of that information already . Does not alter the fallacies you used .
Yes you are employing the fallacies i have stated .
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
Nope but nice try 
How do DNA spell checkers come from an undirected dumb process. Impossible.
(May 12, 2018 at 9:43 pm)Joods Wrote: Like I said, same ad nauseum over and over again. He's going to keep on repeating the same opinions in a very weak attempt at trying to pass them off as facts.
DNA spell checkers are fact as I posted. People can see through your lies.
My lies? I'm not the one making baseless claims and just demanding (rather arrogantly) that people here just believe them on my say so.
You've got quite the ego, pal. One of these days someone is going to deflate it and then you'll have nothing left but your opinions to keep you company.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:43 pm
(May 12, 2018 at 10:38 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Maybe I'm being too subtle here. CDF is a Poe, His replies are designed to elicit a reaction. It'd be nifty to know his actual thoughts are but c'est la vie.
Every post is my actual belief.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2018 at 10:46 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:Why are the most villainous claims made here without quotation marks?
Are you denying Martin Luther was an anti semite ?
Are you denying he wrote The Jews and their lies .
Are you denying he wrote the following
- "First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools … This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians …"
- "Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."
- "Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them."
- "Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb …"
- "Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside …"
- "Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them …"
- "Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow … But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., … then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., … then eject them forever from the country …"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lut...Their_Lies
Are you denying Luther wrote a publication called Warning against the Jews were he said
We want to deal with them in a Christian manner now. Offer them the Christian faith that they would accept the Messiah, who is even their cousin and has been born of their flesh and blood; and is rightly Abraham’s Seed, of which they boast. Even so, I am concerned [that] Jewish blood may no longer become watery and wild. First of all, you should propose to them that they be converted to the Messiah and allow themselves to be baptized, that one may see that this is a serious matter to them. If not, then we would not permit them [to live among us], for Christ commands us to be baptized and believe in Him, even though we cannot now believe so strongly as we should, God is still patient with usus.[27]
Quote:The movie Expelled goes into more detail on this.
It spews baseless lies . Atheism cannot be blamed for the holocaust . Nor can evolution.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 12, 2018 at 10:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2018 at 10:47 pm by CDF47.)
(May 12, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Joods Wrote: (May 12, 2018 at 9:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote: How do DNA spell checkers come from an undirected dumb process. Impossible.
DNA spell checkers are fact as I posted. People can see through your lies.
My lies? I'm not the one making baseless claims and just demanding (rather arrogantly) that people here just believe them on my say so.
You've got quite the ego, pal. One of these days someone is going to deflate it and then you'll have nothing left but your opinions to keep you company.
I am just provided proof of a Designer to atheists and I am faced with mostly nonsense feedback. How is that arrogant. I am confident in what I believe because it is crystal clear but not arrogant about it.
(May 12, 2018 at 10:43 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Why are the most villainous claims made here without quotation marks?
Are you denying Martin Luther was an anti semite ?
Are you denying he wrote The Jews and their lies .
Are you denying he wrote the following
- "First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools … This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians …"
- "Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."
- "Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them."
- "Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb …"
- "Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside …"
- "Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them …"
- "Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow … But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., … then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., … then eject them forever from the country …"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lut...Their_Lies
Are you denying Luther wrote a publication called Warning against the Jews were he said
We want to deal with them in a Christian manner now. Offer them the Christian faith that they would accept the Messiah, who is even their cousin and has been born of their flesh and blood; and is rightly Abraham’s Seed, of which they boast. Even so, I am concerned [that] Jewish blood may no longer become watery and wild. First of all, you should propose to them that they be converted to the Messiah and allow themselves to be baptized, that one may see that this is a serious matter to them. If not, then we would not permit them [to live among us], for Christ commands us to be baptized and believe in Him, even though we cannot now believe so strongly as we should, God is still patient with usus.[27]
Quote:The movie Expelled goes into more detail on this.
It spews baseless lies . Atheism cannot be blamed for the holocaust . Nor can evolution.
I didn't realize he made those statements.
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