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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 12:25 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 12:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Lets put this into a freindly context. I hear you like airplanes. Rocks and dna are not the designed things you're looking for. You;re looking for a 747. What makes you think that you are more like a 747 than dna or rocks?
Sophistication and information
Rocks and dna are both sophisticated, and both contain information. That doesn;t mean that their design and the design of a 747 are equal. We understand how sophistication can be produced by unintellignt processes. While that handily accounts for dna and rocks..it doesn;t account for a 747.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 12:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 12:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Sophistication and information
Rocks and dna are both sophisticated. That doesn;t mean that their design and the design of a 747 are equal.
I am not talking about the rock. Rocks are not specified and complex. I am talking about sophisticated systems like DNA, the human body,... The only reason rocks are designed is because the entire universe is designed.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 12:29 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 12:26 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 12:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Rocks and dna are both sophisticated. That doesn;t mean that their design and the design of a 747 are equal.
I am not talking about the rock. Rocks are not specified and complex. I am talking about sophisticated systems like DNA, the human body,... The only reason rocks are designed is because the entire universe is designed.
The design of a rock or of dna is not the same as the design of a 747. Again, I;m asking you why you think that you're more like a 747 than rocks or dna.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 12:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No it doesn;t. All you need is magic book.
ID and theology are separate topics although ID has religious implications as I have stated prior.
Seriously, I'm not trying to be rude, but why are you still here?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm
Quote:ID and theology are separate topics although ID has religious implications as I have stated prior.
Bullshit.
The court in Kitzmiller v Dover found otherwise.
Quote:4.
Whether ID is Science
After a searching review of the record and applicable caselaw, we find that
while ID arguments may be true, a proposition on which the Court takes no
position, ID is not science. We find that ID fails on three different levels, any one
of which is sufficient to preclude a determination that ID is science. They are: (1)
ID violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting
supernatural causation; (2) the argument of irreducible complexity, central to ID,
employs the same flawed and illogical contrived dualism that doomed creation
science in the 1980's; and (3) ID’s negative attacks on evolution have been refuted
by the scientific community. As we will discuss in more detail below, it is
additionally important to note that ID has failed to gain acceptance in the scientific
community, it has not generated peer-reviewed publications, nor has it been the
subject of testing and research.
Go peddle your theology elsewhere. We are on to you. And so is the court.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 2:29 pm
So rocks are designed when it's convenient, and aren't designed when it isn't convenient. Is that about right?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 2:33 pm
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(May 5, 2018 at 9:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: You are so wrong on this one. Extremely sophisticated information was found in DNA. The debate is over.
What an incredibly poeish thing to say!
(May 5, 2018 at 10:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The scientific community disagrees with you. 51 percent of scientists are believers and 41 percent are non-believers based on a Pew poll result. Once the stigma of ID wears old, I expect that number to increase even more for believers. Also, 89 percent of people in the US believe in God based on a Gallup poll.
http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scien...nd-belief/
http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ameri...e-god.aspx
Many believers accept evolution. Including 100% of Catholics. So the fact 51% are believers is irrelevant.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 2:55 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 2:29 pm)robvalue Wrote: So rocks are designed when it's convenient, and aren't designed when it isn't convenient. Is that about right?
Pretty much, additionally...you can tell somethings designed if it;s complex, or if it;s simple.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Is a wine bottle cork designed or not?
Is it complex or not?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 4:19 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 12:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 12:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No it doesn;t. All you need is magic book.
ID and theology are separate topics although ID has religious implications as I have stated prior.
No Creatardism is a subset of christardism. And "I"D is a stupid strategy dreamed up by various christards to get their favoured creatardism taught as science in schools.
Therefore "I"D is simply theology dressed up in silk, but it remains a sow's ear.
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