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22nd School Shooting this year
#81
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm)paulpablo Wrote: It's usually bullying, mental problems, family issues or just general teenage violence and emotions combined with access to guns.  Mostly they don't come from racially diverse settings, they usually go to mainly white schools with mainly white victims.

Paul, I see it as could it just be a case of the spoilt/selfish/snowflake middle class white kid syndrome?
For some reason it's now a mental health issue?

You cannot change this attitude from forming in young ones by using logic and discussion... just sayin'
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#82
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 20, 2018 at 1:15 am)ignoramus Wrote:
(May 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm)paulpablo Wrote: It's usually bullying, mental problems, family issues or just general teenage violence and emotions combined with access to guns.  Mostly they don't come from racially diverse settings, they usually go to mainly white schools with mainly white victims.

Paul, I see it as could it just be a case of the spoilt/selfish/snowflake middle class white kid syndrome?
For some reason it's now a mental health issue?

I wouldn't put forward any one thing and say that's the issue, the few things I mentioned are common issues, being nervous about diversity is very much not a common issue as far as I can tell with school shooters.

If the shooter is spoiled and raised to be selfish that's a family issue, the shooters are normally about as middle class and white as the victims they're shooting.


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#83
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 19, 2018 at 10:54 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(May 19, 2018 at 8:01 pm)henryp Wrote: Emergency exits aren't a new invention.  Not having a bunch of doors you can just walk into the school through doesn't literally mean one door to the school.

Quote:Fire fighters have cited overzealous guards who told people during a fire that they are not allowed to use emergency exits. The practice is actually quite common in the absence of fires, as well. Some skyscrapers have stairwells with standard emergency exit signs on each door, which then lock upon closing. Users of these stairwells are trapped, whether they know or do not know that the only door that opens from the inside is the one on the ground floor.

A further problem becoming very common in the USA (2005) is that retail stores at night close one of their main entrance/exits through makeshift heavy metal barriers, signage, paper notes, or junk placed in front of the exits. Some actually lock their exits. A large array of signage and mechanical exit systems have also been devised, including signage that says contradictorily, "This is not an exit," "Do not use this exit," or warning users that a heavy penalty will be assessed for non-emergency use.

Some systems do not allow the exit to be opened until the user signals the intention to exit (through a button or lever) for some amount of time, such as 20 seconds. It is also common for these exits to remain completely locked until somebody tests them.

Wikipedia || Emergency exit

Quote:The Stardust fire was a fatal fire which took place at the Stardust nightclub in Artane, Dublin, Ireland in the early hours of 14 February (Valentine's Day) 1981. Some 841 people had attended a disco there, of whom 48 died and 214 were injured as a result of the fire....The attendees at a trade union function taking place in the same building made their escape but the escape of some of the Stardust patrons was hampered by a number of obstructions. Some of the main fire exits were padlocked around the push bars and consequently were impossible to open.

Stardust fire

Don't put padlocks or pile a bunch of shit in front of the emergency exits.   WE DID IT!! WE SOLVED THE GREAT EMERGENCY EXIT RIDDLE OF 1981!!!!  

Addressing the other very relevant points is much trickier though.  Not putting schools in skyscrapers is a start.  Use a normal emergency exit, rather than a complicated rube goldberg emergency exit in schools probably allays some of your concerns.  Finally,  I'm thinking some sort of drill that practices what the kids/teachers should due in the event of a fire.  Where they all go out these forbidden exits of doom, so they will find it's not so scary after all.  Maybe we could call these 'fire drills.'
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#84
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
Potential motive unrequited love/rejection: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018...626861002/
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#85
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
Oh goody another possible Incel killer. I wonder when will read his angsty treaties on how treaded on he was by evil women . And i wonder how many MRA dido heads will defend him . Because those fuckers would rather cut their arms off then attack the incels (to much money to be made feeding of their sense of entitlement )
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#86
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Potential motive unrequited love/rejection: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018...626861002/

And the little cunt won't be eligible for the death penalty.

But apparently his victims were.
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RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
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#88
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 20, 2018 at 5:21 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(May 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Potential motive unrequited love/rejection: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018...626861002/

And the little cunt won't be eligible for the death penalty.

But apparently his victims were.
Oh, he'll pray for death.

(May 20, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Khemikal Wrote: "We're gonna be so tough on crime, believe me".

Something the Golden Ape said?
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#89
RE: 22nd School Shooting this year
(May 20, 2018 at 5:21 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(May 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Potential motive unrequited love/rejection: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018...626861002/

And the little cunt won't be eligible for the death penalty.

But apparently his victims were.

Honestly - for him to have to sit in jail and be forced to think about what he did, and have to live every day like that, is a good thing. Why should he get the death penalty, only to have his life end, and NOT be forced to think about the atrocities he's committed? 

They should do more and confine him to solitary so that he has to sit in a 5x8 cell for 23 hours a day, never seeing the light of day again.
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