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School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:12 pm
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EVERY time there's a new school shooting, and the first one should have been indication for change, there is nothing happening except supporters for guns speaking out of their anuses.
How about enacting real change by deciding that enough is enough?
A gun is in no way comparable to a human life. That's the real crux of the issue.
America is making the gun more important than a human life.
Enough of this madness.
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:16 pm
This particular portion of the gun control debate was lost @ sandy hook. If we were ever going to do anything on account of it, it would have been then.
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:18 pm
I haven't lost hope that we can redeem ourselves over the Sith, by which I mean the NRA.
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:21 pm
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People are probably tired of me pointing this out, but the nra doesn;t feed this issue, ultimately. If we entirely got rid of the nra we'd still be in this bind. You;re hoping that the whackos that allow them to be political kingmakers can be overcome. GL with that.
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:25 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 5:21 pm)Khemikal Wrote: People are probably tired of me pointing this out, but the nra doesn;t feed this issue, ultimately. If we entirely got rid of the nra we'd still be in this bind. You;re hoping that the whackos that allow them to be political kingmakers can be overcome. GL with that.
Then you're feeding into the problem.
The truth is that the NRA does everything to ensure guns remain, because the organization makes money from people who think owning a gun is a solution.
If we were to go the way of Australia, do you think the NRA would even exist?
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:26 pm
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Sure, sure, I;m part of the problem and you're not aiming your gun at the wrong people. 
Quote:One of the architects of Australia’s strict gun control laws says he is “deeply concerned” about the emergence of what he described as a US-inspired firearms lobby.
Tim Fischer, the former deputy prime minister and leader of the National party who alongside John Howard helped to pass landmark reforms after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, says he believes a “wave” of firearm lobbying influenced by the US National Rifle Association is putting renewed pressure on Australian gun laws.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...s-gun-laws
The value of guns, to the nra or any nra-like organization..is as a wedge issue. It has nothing to do with the guns. There -is- an actual "gun lobby" of the type people imagine the nra to be. They;re worse than the nra, and more effective, partly because they are altogether under the radar.
The NRA says crazy shit as red meat for the base. The NSSF legitimately asks "why can;t we export weapons to warzones?"
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:28 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 5:26 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Sure, sure, I;m part of the problem and you're not aiming your gun at the wrong people.
Quote:One of the architects of Australia’s strict gun control laws says he is “deeply concerned” about the emergence of what he described as a US-inspired firearms lobby.
Tim Fischer, the former deputy prime minister and leader of the National party who alongside John Howard helped to pass landmark reforms after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, says he believes a “wave” of firearm lobbying influenced by the US National Rifle Association is putting renewed pressure on Australian gun laws.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-ne...s-gun-laws
I'm aiming logic. Big difference.
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:31 pm
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Quote:A gun is in no way comparable to a human life. That's the real crux of the issue.
Exactly this ^. When someone says in response to a school shooting, 'Don't you DARE take my guns away!' instead of, 'This is horrific. What can we do to keep kids safer?', that person and I don't have a difference of opinion. We have a difference of morality.
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:32 pm
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Australia - Colonised by convicts. Access to weapons not allowed.
America - Colonised by the brave and the free. Freedom to be protected at all cost.
Both make sense. 2 completely different beginnings. 2 Radically different endings. Both great democracies. 
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RE: School Shootings
May 20, 2018 at 5:37 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 5:32 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Australia - Colonised by convicts. Access to weapons not allowed.
America - Colonised by the brave and the free. Freedom to be protected at all cost.
Both make sense. 2 completely different beginnings. 2 Radically different endings. Both great democracies.
It makes sense, actually. Those cast away by society decided to make a better society for themselves than those who freely left society of their own accord. Those who left freely were perhaps overcome more by a want of power by their own hands than earning freedom properly.
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