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87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
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News story here:
New York Times -- Ireland Abortion Vote Lamentation here: Catholicism.org -- on the SLPC hate list Is this the beginning of the end for right-wing Christianity?  (May 28, 2018 at 9:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: News story here: It's another nail in the coffin for religion in Europe. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
The evangelicals just got the "heartbeat bill" passed here in Iowa where I live; wonder if there is going to be a back lash from the young voters here come November?
There was a right-wing catholick web site just the other day which was whining that Pope Fuckface did nothing to help defeat the measure. The reason why turns out to be astonishingly simple. The church it seems had correctly determined that its status had sunk so low in Ireland because of its repeated scandals that any attempt to interfere would backfire.
As it turns out, they are totally fucked and on their way to irrelevancy anyway. And the FSM pronounced it "Good."  RE: 87% of Young Irish Vote for Abortion!
May 29, 2018 at 5:15 am
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(May 28, 2018 at 9:18 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(May 28, 2018 at 9:13 pm)Jehanne Wrote: News story here: Pffft, what does abortion have to do with religion? I'm a pro-life non-believer myself like Hitchens was. Moderator Notice
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This is terrible news.
Killing off your kids (essentially your genes and how you live on) is an immature and short-sided immoral decision. 
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The rcc is dead in Ireland amongst the young. The only reason they cling on to their zombie existence here is that the state allows the church dictate what goes on in 96% of primary and c. 85% of secondary schools and run the teacher training colleges. Hence you get an awful lot of conservatism and catholic rhetoric in Irish education (I estimated out of eight years primary education, between half hour a day of religious instruction and a month each to prepare for communion and confirmation two whole years is spent on catholoc religous instruction. Even rligious teachers are pissed off at this) and a few kids snagged every year, and anawful lot of doctrinaire tachers (used to be a problem to 10 years ago when teachers made up 1/3 of TDs).
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I don't think that this is the end of Christianity or another nail in the coffin for religion, religion has survived for centuries and will survive another...
 .. it's rather a shot in the heel of civilization itself ... look at the Germans, they didn't need to stricer an abortion laws, they have chosen themself the model "2 + dog" and now what ?... they are trying to get people to work because the nation is dying ... So if people want to kill their children, their choice ... free will ... but I don't have to approve of it.. but that's just me 
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May 29, 2018 at 7:19 am
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(May 29, 2018 at 6:38 am)Wololo Wrote: The rcc is dead in Ireland amongst the young. The only reason they cling on to their zombie existence here is that the state allows the church dictate what goes on in 96% of primary and c. 85% of secondary schools and run the teacher training colleges. Hence you get an awful lot of conservatism and catholic rhetoric in Irish education (I estimated out of eight years primary education, between half hour a day of religious instruction and a month each to prepare for communion and confirmation two whole years is spent on catholoc religous instruction. Even rligious teachers are pissed off at this) and a few kids snagged every year, and anawful lot of doctrinaire tachers (used to be a problem to 10 years ago when teachers made up 1/3 of TDs). Somewhat true. In my own experience, the RCC owns the education system at all levels. But the facts on the ground are that all of us chose to say **** you and the horse you rode in on. Nobody took it seriously when I was in school. One simply played a role for the nuns, brothers and priests. It was mushroom technology at it's finest. Feed them any old **** and keep them in the dark. (May 29, 2018 at 5:17 am)Whitewolf Wrote: This is terrible news. The term is "short sighted". It is not an immature decision, on the contrary, it is a genuine decision based on the welfare of the self and the child. This is the problem with the "No" crowd. They are all about protecting the unborn, but after the child is actually born, they lose all interest in it's welfare. |
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