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Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
(June 12, 2018 at 10:38 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: You're simply wanting "Arabs" and "Muslims" to submit and yield to the Israeli oppression.
Quite biased; if you wanted the truth. Just like the natives in America had the right to fight the white man; Palestinians have the right to fight the invading Zionist hordes.
Yes, yes, yes..I know, you insist on calling israelis an "invading zionist horde".  Let;s ignore how silly that is..and just remind ourselves that the invading horde is there to stay.  How do we proceed from -there-...because that is what will have to be done.  

Quote:No, we do our part.
Our children, or maybe grand grand grand children will thank us.

And I believe in a day when I'll stand in front of God, he will judge me for every bit of action too. In the day of judgement, I don't want to be "the asshole that saw a whole population getting eradicated but chose the stereotypical silence".
You could be seen as the asshole who saw a whole population getting eradicated but chose to spout gibberish that prolonged the conflict to the detriment of your fellows and benefit of their enemies.  I;m not sure how that would be better..but its your god..and your judgement day..so you do you.

Meanwhile, in the real world...I think you need a better plan.....
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
Quote:The beginning of any solution for anyone simply has to be the end of this nonsense about not recognizing israels right to exist...or screaming death to israel while popularizing and normalizing intifada.
No it's israel not being an asshole.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
They won;t when intifada is the norm and neighboring countries use death to israel as a motto.  No sane country would or could. Dick move, sure..still the right move.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
Quote:I don;t think I'll ever be able to see eye to eye with you on this whataboutist business with israel.
To bad i'm not engaged in whataboutism .I'm pointing out Israel's culpability and role in this whole ugly affair and how it drives it . That's not whataboutism.

Quote:They won;t when intifada is the norm and neighboring countries use death to israel as a motto.  No sane country would or could. Dick move, sure..still the right move.
Then death to Israel stays in the motto.Because why would any sane country trust Israel let alone the neighbours it's being an asshole too. Do you really think Israel will change if Hamas recognizes their "right " to exist and approves a two state solution . Spoilers they won't they will do more of the same with a weaker opponent .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
So long as israel -exists- jihadis will look to settle the old score..and so long as jihadis look to settle the old score..israel will continue to do what its been doing.

"Death to Iran" hasn;t been any sort of motto for the israeli state..nor have they been loading up civvies with bombs to kill civvies. No peace or accord is possible between nations when one set of the proposed negotiators refuses to recognize the right of the other to exist.

Let me ask you this, why would you cooperate with the establishment of a state that takes the destruction of your own state to be a founding principle..on the borders of your state..when you;re already threatened by other states who've had the same aim since the day you were declared a state, that you've already fought wars with for that very reason? What about any of that seems acceptable? I;m not asking you whether or not the israelis are a bunch of nice guys, or for you to sign off on the many dick moves they make. Only asking you why this seems so difficult to comprehend?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
Jews and Muslims lived side by side together in the past and hopefully they will in the future. I don't want two state - I would rather have the solution I posed in beginning, and that's the end of the Apartheid regime as is.
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
A single unified state would be in the best interests of israelis and palestinians...just doesn;t work for Hamas, Iran, or the jihadis... lol.

A two state solution would work for Hamas and Iran, but not so much for palestinians, Israel, or jihadis.

The destruction of the state of israel work work for Iran and jihadis, but not so much for Hamas, palestinians, israelis, or Israel.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
Nothing but dots left come 2020, in all likelihood.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Israeli forces kill medic, wound 100 protesters in Gaza unrest, Palestinian ministry
I think we'd see much better results if America had a decent leader who would condemn Israel for such actions. If Israel keeps getting away with this sort of thing, it'll only strengthen anti-western mentality among Arabs. How does it look to the moderate Arabs to see Israel get away with murdering a woman who only wanted to save lives. What kind of people does it make for those who can't condemn war crimes?

Instead, we have cowards who are afraid of criticizing Israel, and people who'd rather be their lap dog than a watchdog. Hamas deserves condemning for all the stuff they do. Israel deserves condemning too. Both are terrible groups, and I can't support either of them.
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