Question to theists

[purplepurpose]

Torture for not kissing God's ass. That's the heights of retardation.

[Crossless2.0]

I don't know which is worse. That your {Godscreated's} gawd allegedly created an eternal torture chamber or that your morality sees no problem with it.

I think the morality is a far bigger problem.  The god and the eternal torture chamber may be fictional, but GC's attitude towards people who reject his belief system is utterly inexcusable.

Between GC's views and mine lie an unbridgeable chasm of utter contempt that his religious views guarantee he will misinterpret and misunderstand. Some people are simply lost causes when it comes to basic decency or using their allegedly God-given brains. GC's slavish embrace of this monstrous faith ensures he is one of them.

*shrug*

[Astreja]

I think the morality is a far bigger problem.  The god and the eternal torture chamber may be fictional, but GC's attitude towards people who reject his belief system is utterly inexcusable.

Between GC's views and mine lie an unbridgeable chasm of utter contempt that his religious views guarantee he will misinterpret and misunderstand. Some people are simply lost causes when it comes to basic decency or using their allegedly God-given brains. GC's slavish embrace of this monstrous faith ensures he is one of them.

*shrug*

I find it reassuring that he, or someone like him, would have a hard time getting away with this kind of harassment in my workplace.  At the very least he'd end up with a written reprimand on his file and orders to cease and desist, and if it was persistent enough he could be fired with cause.

And I share your contempt for him.  I would not trust him with any task whatsoever within my circle of influence, regardless of his credentials.  When I was still a Crazy Cat Lady™ with a Dark Legion of felines, one of my favourite sayings was "I wouldn't trust you to change my cats' litter boxes."  Alas, the Dark Legion is no more (all nine of them reached their respective Best-Before dates) and I can no longer use that line.

[Crossless2.0]

Astreja: Crazy Cat Lady . . . Dark Legion of felines . . . a clarinet with which to charm them!

You're just four hundred years, give or take, from burning at the stake, Witch!

[Astreja]

Astreja: Crazy Cat Lady . . . Dark Legion of felines . . . a clarinet with which to charm them!

For values of "charm" → 0.

An actual quote from the late Frey "Fuzzy Butt" Kittehson, kinetic furball extraordinaire:

{Astreja plays a few notes in altissimo register}

*gallopgallopgallop* Mew! Mew! Mew!  ("She'splayingthathingagainMAKEHERSTOP!")

[Godscreated]

Who am I to question the wisdom of the eternal God.

GC

No, GC. It's obvious you're a blind follower, not a questioner.

And I suppose you would question those who know more than you do, of coarse you would, self premotion is the theme of your life, sad just sad.

GC

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 No allegedly, He did. Who am I to question the wisdom of the eternal God.

GC

*derisive snort*  Who do you have to be?

Boru

No one has reached that status, man is created by God and man can't even make a piece of grass and we know all the chemicals contained in a piece of grass. Until you can create a piece of living grass I would say you have no foundation on which to question God.

GC

[Astreja]

And I suppose you {TGB} would question those who know more than you do, of coarse you would, self premotion is the theme of your life, sad just sad.

Please distinguish between those who claim they know more, and those who actually do know more.  There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that the deity described therein is particularly intellligent.

There is nothing wrong with questioning, unless you value obedience over knowledge.

[Godscreated]

The only reason he gets away with this shit is that there's a specific forum rule allowing threats from religious scripture. I'm not in favour of that, to be honest. Just quoting it is one thing, but otherwise openly threatening people (even when it's on behalf of your imaginary friend) is messed up.

I suppose it's because we find these threats about as scary as a three year old waving a Darth Vader toy at us. But it's extremely hypocritical how they'd cry blue murder if we started threatening them back.

"I'm not threatening you, I'm just telling you that it's a fact that a sniper will shoot you in the head if you don't wire me 50 grand."

Your perception of a threat has no validity to it at all. Let's examine this a little more closely. Threat- a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

This definition shows that I would have to be the one who could punish you by placing you in hell and that is not possible because I can't be the ultimate Judge which God is. The major reason I can't be your judge is because your actions are against God not me. I would also need to have the desire to see you in hell and I do not, if I did I wouldn't be here trying to warn others of an impending doom, a doom for those who reject the Son of God. I would leave you to your devises and worry not what happens to your eternal soul. So by the above definition I'm not threatening, you are just wanting to complain because you are unsure I'm correct in what I state is the outcome for those who reject Jesus and His work for mankind. As stated I have no authority to threaten, judge and punish, but I do have a responsibility as a Christian to warn people of this impending doom. It is then your own decision that will result in where you will spend eternity. I rarely am the first to bring up the eternal punishment, it is usually some atheist trying to show off and it then results in a response from me.

 The above bold by me, stated by you is a threat, it holds all the truth of a threat and I see it that way, but I'm not interested in any action being taken against you, unless someone does take a pot shot at me. Now all the atheist cry babies can come out and defend his statement, I expect it from many on this site because I have seen the pettiness of some here. 

GC

[Astreja]

GC, you are deliberately trying to create fear in people so that they'll subscribe to the same beliefs as you hold.

You may not have the power to make the threat come true, but you are clearly using psychological abuse as a means of coercion.

[robvalue]

He's saying, "Join my religion or my mate will torture you". This could be seen as a warning rather than a threat, if it wasn't for the fact that he's also saying how awesome he thinks his mate is, and how justified he is torturing people.

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PS: he can't possibly think that these scare tactics are ever going to work on us forum regulars, so he must be trying to intimidate new members and passers by. Classy.