Why believe the bible?

[Crossless2.0]

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Is racism, like..even so bad?  What about the religious persecution people like Drich have to face, huh, whattabout that?  Doubleplus ungood!  

Somebody;s been away from the mothership too long.

whattabout some good olde fashion book chapter and verse that authorizes said persecution... or an admission that not everything done by religous people are because God demands it.

Lol. It's almost as if you are responding to what Khem wrote. Good reading, Drich!

If you don't mind, I'm going to take your interpretations of literature with a considerable grain of salt.

[Amarok]

whattabout some good olde fashion book chapter and verse that authorizes said persecution... or an admission that not everything done by religous people are because God demands it.

It does not matter if god demands it or not

[Angrboda]

It's not clear that it means what you think it means.  Head of the church, savior of the church, neither of these indicate that Hitler intended to replace God with himself.  These are both expressions which have meanings quite apart from your rather idiomatic references to Christ's role in Christianity.  It's not clear from what you've presented that there ever was going to be a demand to worship Hitler as God.

Basic sunday school Christian teach who the "head of the church is."
The passage does not have to 'spell it word for word as you so often demand." as Church tradition/The bible does this for us.
1 col 117 The Son was there before anything was made.
   And all things continue because of him.
18 He is the head of the body, which is the church.
   He is the beginning of everything else.
And he is the first among all who will be raised from death.[d]
   So in everything he is most important.

19 God was pleased for all of himself to live in the Son.

and again:
22 Wives, be willing to serve your husbands the same as the Lord. 23 A husband is the head of his wife, just as Christ is the head of the church. Christ is the Savior of the church, which is his body. 24 The church serves under Christ, so it is the same with you wives. You should be willing to serve your husbands in everything.

Again Christ is the head of the church even the pope make the point to say Christ is the "invisiable head' at least sharing the title of God with God.

Hitler is clearly seeking to be the Head of the church in this statement and the out lined follow up about replacing religion with something better.

If you don't understand that, then know you should be asking questions establishing basic christianity and not trying to split hairs in nazi propaganda (something meant to deceive)

This is utterly moronic. That "head of the church" can mean what you say doesn't mean that it necessarily does mean that in the context provided.

As to the rest of your idiotic drivel, the propaganda piece does not support your claim, nor does the internal memo.

That you can't tell the difference between an inference and a fact is sad and pathetic, but that appears to be the case.

Apparently whatever it is you huff to give you the inflated sense of ego you have, apparently you've taken a double dose today.

As noted in my original reply, you are forming conclusions not in evidence. The rest is just your usual piss match bullshit.

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Agreed. I thought he was trolling us with the whole brain as an antennae idea but then he seemed to genuinely believe it in another thread.

transmitter and receiver.. and i conclusively shown that the brain does indeed transmit and receives electrical signals that it then translated into sensor perception.. this is not a Drich thing. this is a science thing. I simply applied this in a way people like you have been authorized to accept yet.

It's literally amazing how you can get the most basic of things so utterly wrong. You are indeed the moron's moron.

Your presumptions were rebutted not once but twice in that thread.

[I_am_not_mafia]

It's literally amazing how you can get the most basic of things so utterly wrong.  You are indeed the moron's moron.

Your presumptions were rebutted not once but twice in that thread.

I've noticed, and it certainly applies to myself, that Drich's ideas are getting so moronic that people aren't even bothering to argue with him beyond initially pointing out why he is wrong, that is if they can be arsed. He seems to have reached Little Rik levels of moronicity.

[Mister Agenda]

I love Drich's affectionate terms for people he disagrees with, like 'sport' or 'retard'.

[downbeatplumb]

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It's not clear that it means what you think it means.  Head of the church, savior of the church, neither of these indicate that Hitler intended to replace God with himself.  These are both expressions which have meanings quite apart from your rather idiomatic references to Christ's role in Christianity.  It's not clear from what you've presented that there ever was going to be a demand to worship Hitler as God.

Basic sunday school Christian teach who the "head of the church is."
The passage does not have to 'spell it word for word as you so often demand." as Church tradition/The bible does this for us.
1 col 117 The Son was there before anything was made.
   And all things continue because of him.
18 He is the head of the body, which is the church.
   He is the beginning of everything else.
And he is the first among all who will be raised from death.[d]
   So in everything he is most important.

19 God was pleased for all of himself to live in the Son.

and again:
22 Wives, be willing to serve your husbands the same as the Lord. 23 A husband is the head of his wife, just as Christ is the head of the church. Christ is the Savior of the church, which is his body. 24 The church serves under Christ, so it is the same with you wives. You should be willing to serve your husbands in everything.

Again Christ is the head of the church even the pope make the point to say Christ is the "invisiable head' at least sharing the title of God with God.

Hitler is clearly seeking to be the Head of the church in this statement and the out lined follow up about replacing religion with something better.

If you don't understand that, then know you should be asking questions establishing basic christianity and not trying to split hairs in nazi propaganda (something meant to deceive)

: here is Actual nazi propaganda that is the beginning of the seperation of the Church and the nazi governmental church
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/rim5.htm

As long as the Roman Catholic Church stays within its boundaries, as long as it deals with the religious lives and experiences of its faithful, and as long as it does not interfere in the areas of politics, economics and culture, those areas that the National Socialist government reserves entirely to itself in the interests of the whole of the people, each church and religious group in Germany can conduct its activities unhindered and free of outside influence. ... “The nation is not the highest power, nor may the state be idolized; The highest power for each nation is and remains religion.”

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propag...e/rim5.htm

here is the actual command/order for all senior officials and nazi party leaders to LEAVE the church and force compliance to the german state 'church' (where hitler is the savior)
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/koehler.htm

This memo seems rather clear in its intent, and doesn't really support either of your inferences.

because you are trolling again and of course the passages no longer show what I claimed you have cherry picked in such a way so they no longer read correctly.

This is the beginning of the expulsion of forgein christian religions as called for by rosenberg in the lat line of Hitler's plan for the religion of Germany.

Even if true, that

doesn't imply the conclusions you've drawn here.  I see no proverbial smoking gun in any of this.

then you are intentionally being obtuse. I gave you access to the intion of the nazi party mid war, and then gave you access to the actual actual command that demands all senior officials break from the church and align themselves with the state, just like the plan said for hitler to become the head of the church.

Based on the information you've presented, I'd have to rate your claim that Hitler demanded to be worshiped as God as false,

because you lack the fundamental knowledge underscoring the term 'head of the church.' you wrongly sought a definition in nazi propaganda, when you should have turned to "the church" to define your query.

and your contention that this is what he wanted as unsupported.

Who is the head of the church? did I not show the Nazi party exalting hitler to become the head of the church? again not that it happened fully, but to take the title "savior of Germany, to replace the cross, with the swastika, to replace the bible with mein kampf then issuing an order to break from the outside church... If these are not all indicators to you of a man wishing to take the place of God in his people then again you are being intentionally obtuse. No one can look at all this evidence and claim otherwise.. So did you actually read anything I posted or did you just skim through it with your closed mind already made up?

 You're conflating inferences you are making from the facts, with the actual facts themselves.  For someone who "always supports his claims with three sources" I'd expect better than this.  So, until you deliver, I'm going to have to conclude that you've failed to adequately support your claims.

You got your three source sweet heart you got a wiki page, a letter from the ministry of propaganda and a letter from koler. again your intentionally ground the facts because you lack the fundamentals to make an accurate assessment of the topic you are pretending to be in a place to judge. and you assume the fault lies with the facts provided. when in truth you do not have the ability to put the fact together with the subject matter you are attempting to dismiss. The fault is not with me nor the fact provided as I only answer the question you ask, but that's the gig isn't it? you intentionally ask 1/2 questions in order to get 1/2 an answer then you fill in with whatever you like.

It's also worth noting that if you're basing this all on Rosenberg, the Wikipedia article you cite states that, "Rosenberg was in the end, a marginalised figure in the Hitler regime."  But if you have some explicit statements from Rosenberg that he intended to elevate Hitler to the station of God, by all means provide them.

like this bullshit.. What a stupid thing to try and trivialize. do you seriously not know any better or is it your hope I don't? every hear the term 'chain of command?" do you know what that means? of course you don't because you tried and dismiss/throw away the testimony/works of an head ranking nazi party official as if it were the works of some second rate news article. You don't get to debate this, because Here's the thing with that sport.. Any historian can tell you that EVEN IF Rosenberg was the laughing stock of the other advisors (to men like grobbles himler and or goering) He was still a figure head to the REST OF THE MF-ing FATHERLAND! So when He writes a a order say to, ranking officers and party officals Then guess what. whether they like the guy or not ALL men who follow under that category must follow the command. They unlike you did not get to judge a man based on what others thought by wars end. All they know is that A higher up made a call like abandon The church and follow Nazi orders, So then all would do so. lest the be subject of interest for the gestapo

I'm so sorry sport but even if the rest of what i said was untrue the argument ended when the nazi party sought elevated hitler to the status of "the head of the church." Jesus/God has that role if hitler sought it case closed. (unfortunately you lacked the fundamentals in basic christianity to see this therefore dragging out your humiliation on the matter)

but, regardless I showed you/quoted you a passage where they did to put hitler in such a position.. case closed.

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Agreed. I thought he was trolling us with the whole brain as an antennae idea but then he seemed to genuinely believe it in another thread.

transmitter and receiver.. and i conclusively shown that the brain does indeed transmit and receives electrical signals that it then translated into sensor perception.. this is not a Drich thing. this is a science thing. I simply applied this in a way people like you have been authorized to accept yet.

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Is racism, like..even so bad?  What about the religious persecution people like Drich have to face, huh, whattabout that?  Doubleplus ungood!  

Somebody;s been away from the mothership too long.

whattabout some good olde fashion book chapter and verse that authorizes said persecution... or an admission that not everything done by religous people are because God demands it.

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The queen is the head of the Church of England.

[Drich]

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whattabout some good olde fashion book chapter and verse that authorizes said persecution... or an admission that not everything done by religous people are because God demands it.

Lol. It's almost as if you are responding to what Khem wrote. Good reading, Drich!

If you don't mind, I'm going to take your interpretations of literature with a considerable grain of salt.

No i get it far easier to persecute someone when you ignore any evidence that finds them innocent. If I lived in a fantasy world where I needed to fabericate evidence to hold on to religious hate and a sense of superior morality I too would also not look at the lack of religious commandments for the whole sale slaughter of innocent people. just way to much of a gimme if Im looking to make God a monster.

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whattabout some good olde fashion book chapter and verse that authorizes said persecution... or an admission that not everything done by religous people are because God demands it.

It does not matter if god demands it or not

Let me break it down

Atheist Hate God, why He and christianity is unjust. how is christianity and God unjust? God demands christians kill all muslim nonbelievers. 

Book Chapter and verse?

There is non, but it does not matter that God never order the murder of the people he is being blamed for.

So who did murder those people? the king of england via pressure put on the church to santify what a greedy king and pope wanted. who gets the blame? god and christians.

[LastPoet]

Ahaha. I can only wish you were drunk writing that Drich.

[I_am_not_mafia]

I'm thinking that being so hateful all the time must take its toll on the brain. And this is what we are seeing happen with Drich.

[Crossless2.0]

Lol. It's almost as if you are responding to what Khem wrote. Good reading, Drich!

If you don't mind, I'm going to take your interpretations of literature with a considerable grain of salt.

No i get it far easier to persecute someone when you ignore any evidence that finds them innocent. If I lived in a fantasy world where I needed to fabericate evidence to hold on to religious hate and a sense of superior morality I too would also not look at the lack of religious commandments for the whole sale slaughter of innocent people. just way to much of a gimme if Im looking to make God a monster.

Persecute? Fuck me, but you're a fragile little shit, aren't you? I pointed out that you had misread Khem's post, and you did. You'd know that if you were half the reader you think you are. Moron.