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Geocentric Earth
#61
RE: Geocentric Earth
Auto-didacticism.... fail.
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#62
RE: Geocentric Earth
You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.
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#63
RE: Geocentric Earth
(July 27, 2018 at 5:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.

That would actually require getting off his drunken ass and actually examining the evidence instead of simply pontificating ex cathedra. Somehow I don't think that's in his play book.
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#64
RE: Geocentric Earth
(July 27, 2018 at 3:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

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#65
RE: Geocentric Earth
(July 27, 2018 at 5:10 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Auto-didacticism.... fail.

The auto part certainly didn’t fail.

(July 27, 2018 at 3:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

Ur, because the new moon is as unlit as the rest of black sky we see at night, so during the day it will look exactly as how the rest of sky looks during the day?

Less self-assurance, more study and reflection.   At where you are, there is no possibility that would could fail to help a lot every time.

If the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would actually get more fully lit as it moves to the other side of the sun and closer to new moon, rather than less fully lit? No? Not seeing it yet?

Okay, the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would always look smaller than the sun when it is approaching new moon, because it is further away from earth, then other times? No? Still not seeing it?
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#66
RE: Geocentric Earth
(July 27, 2018 at 5:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 27, 2018 at 3:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

You can't be that stupid (or maybe you can, not for me to judge).

You don't see the new moon during the day because the sun isn't shining on it.  When you see the moon in any other phase during daylight hours, you only see the part illuminated by the sun, the rest of the moon - even though still there - looks like the rest of the sky.

You grasp that the sun is substantially more distant from us than the moon is, correct?

Boru
So what your saying is that during a new moon the moon is being eclipsed by earth? Because the moon orbits the earth. So, no reflection. Therefore, not visible to the naked eye. And because, only the earth facing the moon could see it otherwise, anyway, only with a enhanced eye looking in the correct place. I'm cool with that. 

But then, I should be able to see the new moon, using a telescope, when I am rotated to face the eclipsed new moon. Of course, the other side of earth has no chance at such an observation. How am I doing so far?

(July 27, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(July 27, 2018 at 5:10 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Auto-didacticism.... fail.

The auto part certainly didn’t fail.

(July 27, 2018 at 3:46 am)Haipule Wrote: Let me try this again. Ok, we have phases of the moon visible, night and day, to us except the new moon. We see a waning and waxing moon to full day and night. We only watch solar and lunar eclipses. Why don't we see at least some black dot, during the day, in the sky during a new moon?

Unless the moon is behind the sun. Well, if during a new moon, the moon is behind the sun, then how is the moon NOT orbiting the sun and not the earth?

Ur, because the new moon is as unlit as the rest of black sky we see at night, so during the day it will look exactly as how the rest of sky looks during the day?

Less self-assurance, more study and reflection.   At where you are, there is no possibility that would could fail to help a lot every time.

If the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun,  you might think the moon would actually get more fully lit as it moves to the other side of the sun and closer to new moon, rather than less fully lit?   No?   Not seeing it yet?

Okay, the moon really orbits the sun and new moon is when the moon is behind the sun, you might think the moon would always look smaller than the sun when it is approaching new moon, because it is further away from earth, then other times?  No?   Still not seeing it?
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(July 27, 2018 at 5:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.
Thank you for that! I'll see if I can find some google images.

(July 27, 2018 at 6:00 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(July 27, 2018 at 5:52 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You can, in fact, see an occluded area on the starfield where the new moon is. You have to look, of course. If you do and you look in the right spot you'll see a black dot about the size of the Moon as seen from Earth.

That would actually require getting off his drunken ass and actually examining the evidence instead of simply pontificating ex cathedra.  Somehow I don't think that's in his play book.
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#67
RE: Geocentric Earth
(July 28, 2018 at 2:02 am)Haipule Wrote: How am I doing so far?

Very, very badly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#68
RE: Geocentric Earth
Quote:So what your saying is that during a new moon the moon is being eclipsed by earth? Because the moon orbits the earth. So, no reflection. Therefore, not visible to the naked eye. And because, only the earth facing the moon could see it otherwise, anyway, only with a enhanced eye looking in the correct place. I'm cool with that. 

But then, I should be able to see the new moon, using a telescope, when I am rotated to face the eclipsed new moon. Of course, the other side of earth has no chance at such an observation. How am I doing so far?

Who said anything about an eclipse?  The moon isn't being occluded, it simply isn't in the proper position to shine by light reflected by the Earth.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#69
RE: Geocentric Earth
Well, upon further study, a full moon occurs when the earth is between the moon and the sun. And, a new moon is when the moon is in between the sun and the earth. Really? I was just trying to understand the electro magnetic effect of a "line up" having observed it with tides. That's all. Again, I defy gravity with this: FUCK GRAVITY! This doesn't indicate I know a damned thing about nature--YET!
My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well...she's not my girlfriend "yet".

I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9

I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!

When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!

I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.
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#70
RE: Geocentric Earth
(July 22, 2018 at 3:00 am)Haipule Wrote:
(July 21, 2018 at 10:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Yup he's gone full unhinged
Don't have a tizzy Tiz! I'm trying establish that theology and science are two sides of the same stupid coin of "knowledge" all gleaned from the universities of "How to be a moron". All taught by "PHD's" who only learned how to suck mental dick of a PHD so they can have a "PHD"! 

What is the difference between theology and science? NOTHING! As stupid is what stupid thinks. There is a vast difference between knowledge and understanding.


Nature is a hippy chick, from Pa'ia, with hairy arm pits saying, "peace and love"! "Interplay and symphony"!


If you can't accept her simple modality: then you will only invent rocket science! Yet, every rocket is sent according to a egocentrism model of the universe! WHY?

Don't fuck with the hippy chick!


Have you heard of astrology. It has an ology in it so it must be science right! well no actually.

There is also scientology, it has an ology but is to science what a sludge pit is to fine dining. See how sometimes words can be misleading.

In English you can have nice people and Nice the place and it even sounds differently when you say it.



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