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Rapture on another planet
July 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm
We saw from Christians on this forum that they are ready to wait for Jesus for many many years and generations.
So let's for a moment take a Christian viewpoint and Jesus returns in 10.000 years and people happen to live on other planets than Earth like Mars or even in other star systems or even galaxies - will they be ignored or will they be teleported to Earth to be judged? Or will Jesus destroy the whole universe?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 17, 2018 at 4:27 pm
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Looks like the deal is a different planet with different heavens..
Revelation 21 New International Version (NIV)
A New Heaven and a New Earth
21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NIV
Because like that god fella is going to really burn this one badly
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am
(July 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: We saw from Christians on this forum that they are ready to wait for Jesus for many many years and generations.
So let's for a moment take a Christian viewpoint and Jesus returns in 10.000 years and people happen to live on other planets than Earth like Mars or even in other star systems or even galaxies - will they be ignored or will they be teleported to Earth to be judged? Or will Jesus destroy the whole universe?
Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 8:29 am
(July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: (July 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: We saw from Christians on this forum that they are ready to wait for Jesus for many many years and generations.
So let's for a moment take a Christian viewpoint and Jesus returns in 10.000 years and people happen to live on other planets than Earth like Mars or even in other star systems or even galaxies - will they be ignored or will they be teleported to Earth to be judged? Or will Jesus destroy the whole universe?
Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
GC
Jesus only died for ensouled human beings.
He did not die for plants, animals or freaking aliens.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 8:46 am
(July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: (July 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: We saw from Christians on this forum that they are ready to wait for Jesus for many many years and generations.
So let's for a moment take a Christian viewpoint and Jesus returns in 10.000 years and people happen to live on other planets than Earth like Mars or even in other star systems or even galaxies - will they be ignored or will they be teleported to Earth to be judged? Or will Jesus destroy the whole universe?
Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
GC
If "other people" on other planets don't know about Jesus and in turn, don't know about the bible or the Omni-everything that is supposed to be your god, then they can't possibly be corrupt in any way, shape or form, according to the laws of your god, as they are written in the bible. Don't you think that if your god really created the universe, that every being capable of thinking like humans, on every single habitable planet would know about him?
You literally just stated here that we are the only beings in the entire universe that know about god. Now, I ask you - how can this teeny, tiny, itty, bitty, little planet in such a vast universe be so important that if there was a god, we are the sole reason for why all that vast space and those infinite universes exist?
If you believe this, then I have some ocean front property in Arizona that I'd like to sell you.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 8:57 am
I don't know about the rest of you but every time I read the title all I hear is Blonde.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 11:52 am
(July 18, 2018 at 2:22 am)Godscreated Wrote: (July 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: We saw from Christians on this forum that they are ready to wait for Jesus for many many years and generations.
So let's for a moment take a Christian viewpoint and Jesus returns in 10.000 years and people happen to live on other planets than Earth like Mars or even in other star systems or even galaxies - will they be ignored or will they be teleported to Earth to be judged? Or will Jesus destroy the whole universe?
Scripture say that Jesus die once for all, so if there were people on other planets they would not know this and that would be unfair to them and since you are saying take a Christian POV and God being fair and just there can't be people on other planets. God is going to destroy this corrupted universe and create a new one for us, He is wiping the slate clean and all will be well forever and ever, just as one of your fellow atheist has pointed out.
GC
GC, the OP is rather obviously talking about human colonies on other planets.
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 12:58 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 8:29 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Jesus only died for ensouled human beings.
He did not die for plants, animals or freaking aliens.
Actually, Scripture says otherwise:
"We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies." - Romans 8 [my emphasis]
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 1:52 pm
Groan...
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RE: Rapture on another planet
July 18, 2018 at 2:05 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 8:57 am)mh.brewer Wrote: I don't know about the rest of you but every time I read the title all I hear is Blonde.
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