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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Alpha, if you are going to argue that billionaires DO NOT get taxed enough AND I AGREE, then why do you vote for that party?
Because:
1. The dems have shown that they aren't going to raise taxes significantly, and
2. Taxes aren't the only issue.
I'm more aligned with Republicans on social issues, so dems would need to make a clear difference on economics for me to consider them.
As it is, we have a choice between borrow and spend dems, and borrow and spend reps.
Quote:Stop blaming it on our politicians. Blame it on the GOP who has been holding America hostage for 36 years.
The GOP aren't politicians?
(August 7, 2018 at 2:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You would give your vote to people who increase taxes on the rich... No, I would give my vote to people who tax the hell out of rich. I believe I've also termed it as taxing them up the ass.
Even you aren't a big enough liar to claim that 39.6% is taxing the hell out of someone. You've dodged that repeatedly.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 2:59 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 2:51 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 2:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: That doesn't mean it's not an option.
Don't play word games. You do, or should, understand what I mean.
Quote:It means voters have to vote with this in mind. They have to put pressure on their elected officials to make this a top priority.
Yes, some posts back I already said the dems should do that if they want my vote.
You are delusional.
Berinie, " Billionaires are holding our nation hostage"
Warren, "If you want to make money, good for you, but we want fairness".
GOP, "FUCK YOU I GOT MINE.
Trump, LITERALLY SAID IN A MEETING, to BILLIONAIRES, after he cut taxes, "I just made you all a lot richer."
Our politicans DO want your vote, you are just too fixated on bullshit distractions the orange bigot throws in front of you to see clearly.
What our politicians DO NOT WANT though, is the vote of a bigot. So if you think black NFL players are evil, then no go find a time machine and move back to WW2 Germany where Hitler thought black athletes were cheating and inferior.
Now, if you claim not to be a bigot, THEN fucking stop supporting an asshole who panders to bigots.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 7, 2018 at 2:55 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You would give your vote to people who increase taxes on the rich... No, I would give my vote to people who tax the hell out of rich. I believe I've also termed it as taxing them up the ass.
Even you aren't a big enough liar to claim that 39.6% is taxing the hell out of someone. You've dodged that repeatedly.
No, lol, you wouldn't. Why do this to yourself?
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:08 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 2:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So here in Arizona there is a ballot initiative to raise income taxes on people making more than $250g. The republicunts in the legislature are losing their fucking minds trying to sabotage it. So much for the "will of the people" when rich motherfuckers are involved.
I tend not to talk in terms of "all" but in terms of long term climate.
I'd agree right now too much of the top in our point of history forgets or doesn't care that they get rich only because of the labor they hire.
That hasn't always been the majority climate. Henry Ford is a great example of a rich person who actually cared about the stability of his workers. I would have also voted for Teddy, a republican because he was extremely pro worker.
I'd agree right now that the GOP should be flipping out because they know they have been exposed for the greed they protect.
But yea, if you make more 250k, per year, you need to shut the fuck up about taxes.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:09 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 2:59 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are delusional.
Berinie, " Billionaires are holding our nation hostage"
Warren, "If you want to make money, good for you, but we want fairness".
And you believe them, despite their track record of economically being pretty much the same as the Republicans.
Bernie's doing pretty well for himself fooling people like you:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/bernie-s...rcent.html
Oh damn, Warren's in the 1% too:
https://money.cnn.com/2015/01/08/news/ec...en-wealth/
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:12 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 3:09 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 2:59 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You are delusional.
Berinie, " Billionaires are holding our nation hostage"
Warren, "If you want to make money, good for you, but we want fairness".
And you believe them, despite their track record of economically being pretty much the same as the Republicans.
Bernie's doing pretty well for himself fooling people like you:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/bernie-s...rcent.html
Oh damn, Warren's in the 1% too:
https://money.cnn.com/2015/01/08/news/ec...en-wealth/
HELLO MCFLY
Where did I object to wealth? I never did that. I object to abuse of power. HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE.
Billionaire Nick Hanauer would agree with me, not you.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, lol, you wouldn't.
If I were childless, I wouldn't care. But, I have children, and hopefully someday grandchildren. I'd like for them to have a reasonable shot at a prosperous future. Neither party has shown themselves capable of reigning in spending. So, yes, I would seriously consider voting Democrat, if they were going to seriously tax the wealthy.
At the beginning of the 2016 election, I said that Bill Clinton's presidency was successful, and Hillary would likely be 8 years of the same, so I was considering voting for her. But, she went far left, something Bill didn't do. Maybe that was Bernie's fault? Anyway, the point is that not everyone fits into your neat stereotypes and caricatures.
(August 7, 2018 at 3:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote: HELLO MCFLY
Where did I object to wealth?
Wherever you say I GOT MINE.
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:19 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, lol, you wouldn't.
If I were childless, I wouldn't care. But, I have children, and hopefully someday grandchildren. I'd like for them to have a reasonable shot at a prosperous future. Neither party has shown themselves capable of reigning in spending. So, yes, I would seriously consider voting Democrat, if they were going to seriously tax the wealthy.
At the beginning of the 2016 election, I said that Bill Clinton's presidency was successful, and Hillary would likely be 8 years of the same, so I was considering voting for her. But, she went far left, something Bill didn't do. Maybe that was Bernie's fault? Anyway, the point is that not everyone fits into your neat stereotypes and caricatures.
So you support a party that fucks you over on health care? You do know your party wants to end the "pre existing" protection? I hope your family even if you can afford health care in the private sector, doesn't get screwed by that if they do.
(August 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, lol, you wouldn't.
If I were childless, I wouldn't care. But, I have children, and hopefully someday grandchildren. I'd like for them to have a reasonable shot at a prosperous future. Neither party has shown themselves capable of reigning in spending. So, yes, I would seriously consider voting Democrat, if they were going to seriously tax the wealthy.
At the beginning of the 2016 election, I said that Bill Clinton's presidency was successful, and Hillary would likely be 8 years of the same, so I was considering voting for her. But, she went far left, something Bill didn't do. Maybe that was Bernie's fault? Anyway, the point is that not everyone fits into your neat stereotypes and caricatures.
(August 7, 2018 at 3:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote: HELLO MCFLY
Where did I object to wealth?
Wherever you say I GOT MINE.
If you think of yourself as a sharing person, then why do you support a party that protects greed?
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:26 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 3:15 pm)alpha male Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 3:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, lol, you wouldn't.
If I were childless, I wouldn't care. But, I have children, and hopefully someday grandchildren. I'd like for them to have a reasonable shot at a prosperous future. Neither party has shown themselves capable of reigning in spending. So, yes, I would seriously consider voting Democrat, if they were going to seriously tax the wealthy. They've done so before, they'll do so again. Did you support them then? No. Will you support them going forward? No. Is this a legitimate issue that you actually believe is true. No.
Quote:At the beginning of the 2016 election, I said that Bill Clinton's presidency was successful, and Hillary would likely be 8 years of the same, so I was considering voting for her. But, she went far left, something Bill didn't do. Maybe that was Bernie's fault? Anyway, the point is that not everyone fits into your neat stereotypes and caricatures.
Yeah..sure, Hillary is a far left harpy. Whatever you say. I mean...I wish it were true, but we both know it isn't, we both know you're full of shit at every level in this thread, and we both know I won't play along....so?
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RE: How Fucked Up Are Trumptards?
August 7, 2018 at 3:32 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 3:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So you support a party that fucks you over on health care? You do know your party wants to end the "pre existing" protection? I hope your family even if you can afford health care in the private sector, doesn't get screwed by that if they do.
My employer pays 100% of my premiums. I'm not dependent on government to give me health insurance.
Quote:If you think of yourself as a sharing person, then why do you support a party that protects greed?
What does protecting greed even mean?
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