How messed up are Trump Supporters?

[Jackie]

Why yes, when you have a bullshit argument, falsely accuse the sane of social Darwinism.

No sane society would ever do that .Evolution is a fact and is undisputably how we got here. But that does not make it any less screwed up and awful and certainly not something i wan't civilization emulate . Natural does imply good .

Any first world country that values a western open society should not deny scientific fact. Personal superstitions are a matter of rights, not logic. When those superstitions get to the point of bullying a government to the point of denying those facts, bad things follow. 

America did not get to the moon on Allah belief. Led was not taken out of gas based on belief in Vishnu. 

Sickos like Hitler sold hyper nationalism and pseudo science. There are literal charts and junk science tools to point out the inferiority of those evil Jews that his propaganda machine pumped out during his reign of tyranny.

And today, we have a sicko calling Mexicans evil and Muslims evil and even his own intel and the free press evil.

The worst part of Hitler, is that the most likely real reason he became the monster he was, had nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with the fact that the art world told him his painting sucked. Trump picks on the NFL because they would not let him buy into a team, because of his horrible business history. He slams other billionaires not because he cares, but because he cant get a bank loan in America.

Lots of people have told me my poetry sucks. But I certainly would not murder them for saying such.

[Jackie]

Why yes, when you have a bullshit argument, falsely accuse the sane of social Darwinism.

No sane society would ever do that .Evolution is a fact and is undisputably how we got here. But that does not make it any less screwed up and awful and certainly not something i wan't civilization to emulate . Natural does imply good .

Excellent point.

"Natural" to the theist is a dream state where Roy Rogers rides off into the sunset with the girl.

"Natural" to science isn't a good vs evil argument, but only an observation that good and bad happen.

Tornados and Hurricans are NATURAL, scientists are not arguing those events are desirable.

Unfortunately things like rape happen. Not because the victim likes it, and not because there is a man in a red leotard with a pitchfork magically manipulate the neurons in the perps brain. Rape unfortunately happens for very mundane, natural reasons, not desirable reasons, but merely because humans can do bad things.

Rape isn't a bow to Satan, or a denial of God. Rape happens because the perp desires control, and while the sex is the outcome, the control is the drug.

[Angrboda]

Whether Democrats want to "tax the hell out of" the 1% or not, it seems that Democrats have been opposed to tax cuts for the top tiers while Republicans have been for them. Starting with FDR in 1937, tax rates for the wealthy have fallen under four Republican presidents, Nixon, Reagan, Dubya, and Trump, and fallen under only JFK/Johnson on the other side. It may be just my impression, but it's been a perennial talking point of the right, and not so on the left. So, while neither side has taxed the hell out of the rich, I think you're making a false equivalency in claiming there is no difference between the two on the issue of taxing the wealthy.

[Angrboda]

[Minimalist]

RIGHT because one party keeps scaring the shit out of people like you crying "COMMIE".

Ironic when their fuhrer is sucking Putin's cock onstage, eh?

[Angrboda]

[Fake Messiah]

[Pat Mustard]

You would give your vote to people who increase taxes on the rich.....and thats why you don't vote blue and do vote red?

Pull my other one, it has bells on it.

You know a blind dog with a mallet up its arse would see that am is bullshitting here.

[John V]

Ugg, I am sure your denial of evolution and love of old mythology has tons to do with your lack of understanding me.
Lets be clear her, if you do accept evolution, like many theists, you cherry pick it up and until it conflicts with your old mythology.


So how does evolution play into economics you ask?

When you look at other life, when it is balanced and diverse, no one species crashes the ecosystem. But, when one species becomes invasive, that upsets all the other life in that ecosystem and it can cause damage even to the point of extinction.

So how does this relate to humans?

The Russian Revolution, The French Revolution, The Iranian Revolution, AND THE AMERICAN revolution, all went in different directions, with different outcomes, but all happened for the same reason. LACK OF RESOURCES.

There ARE worldwide very empathetic humans, that if it were not for what they are sold by their local powers, WOULD get along better. 
There are humans whom seek power out of greed, then there are others who seek power to do good. 

Just like a female lioness is more apt to protect all cubs even if not hers, while the male lion seeks to kill rival cubs.
Humans are really not a magical species above the behaviors, BOTH GOOD AND BAD, that other species display. 

I would vote for Teddy, or a Malala whom come from a position of empathy, but unfortunately our species also has bullies who seek power too.

Wait is Beta Male trying to pull Social Darwinism  off as a argument ?  

Pure Naturalistic Fallacy

LOL - you quote Brian talking about evolution, and then accuse me of it.

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Whether Democrats want to "tax the hell out of" the 1% or not,

Uh, no, you don't get to just change my goalposts for me.

it seems that Democrats have been opposed to tax cuts for the top tiers while Republicans have been for them.  Starting with FDR in 1937, tax rates for the wealthy have fallen under four Republican presidents, Nixon, Reagan, Dubya, and Trump, and fallen under only JFK/Johnson on the other side.  It may be just my impression, but it's been a perennial talking point of the right, and not so on the left.  So, while neither side has taxed the hell out of the rich, I think you're making a false equivalency in claiming there is no difference between the two on the issue of taxing the wealthy.

The current difference is 2.6%. BFD.

[Angrboda]