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Mental endurance
#11
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 11:09 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Can you lose your salvation? Or who told that you have been forgiven at all?

No.

Numerous Bible authors.
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#12
RE: Mental endurance
See..even that boy wears off..but not his boy.  Wink
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#13
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 1:47 pm)Khemikal Wrote: See..even that boy wears off..but not his boy.  Wink

Yea, butcher/friend won't harm you as long as you remain on your knees.
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#14
RE: Mental endurance
I guess most theists think it's a sure thing that they're going to pass, because their old pal God just happens to share all their opinion about everything. That's the impression I get.

For the few that aren't so sure, it must be a horrific existence indeed. Some are driven to extreme acts.
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#15
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 1:46 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 31, 2018 at 11:09 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Can you lose your salvation? Or who told that you have been forgiven at all?

No.

Numerous Bible authors.

Exactly.
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#16
RE: Mental endurance
The thing about this certainty though, is that it cannot represent truth for many millions of people. The religious themselves tell us this, by making it clear there is only one "correct" faith. I do find it amazing that this doesn't seem to bother any of them. I feel it would be the slap in the face I needed if I was indoctrinated; and if that didn't do it, probably nothing would.
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#17
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 10:57 am)alpha male Wrote:
(August 31, 2018 at 9:40 am)purplepurpose Wrote: How theists manage to torture their mind for decades with idea of Judgment Day and still remain in working condition? 

Well, for Christians there is that whole thing about, you know...being forgiven.

Yeah, here's this about that.

Suppose there's a murderer.  Not just your average, run-of-the-mill Mafia contract killer, but a committed, cannibalistic, paedophile, torturing killer.  These hobbies consume him for years before he's caught, and his victims number around 20.  The day before his execution (we're assuming this happened in America), he has a sincere conversion and repentance.  He realizes the horrors he's committed, the grief and pain he caused to his victims and their families. He repents with all of his heart, and spends his last hours in supplicatory prayer.  God hears him, forgives him, and he gets into Heaven.

Now suppose there's a father.  Not particularly religious, but he does believe.  Goes to church on a more or less regular basis, volunteers for community charity functions, that sort of thing.  Works hard for his family, has never broken the law or caused harm to anyone.  One day, his nine year old daughter goes missing.  Her raped and mutilated body is found weeks later.  The father cannot stand the loss and eventually blows his brains out, his last words being, 'Fuck you, God.'  Dying with the unforgiven sin of blasphemy on his soul, he goes to Hell.

If this whole 'forgiveness' paradigm doesn't strike you as seriously fucked up, there's something very, VERY wrong with you.

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‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#18
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 10:57 am)alpha male Wrote:
(August 31, 2018 at 9:40 am)purplepurpose Wrote: How theists manage to torture their mind for decades with idea of Judgment Day and still remain in working condition? 

Well, for Christians there is that whole thing about, you know...being forgiven.

And Hitler goes to Heaven. Yeah, we know that.
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#19
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 1:46 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 31, 2018 at 11:09 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Can you lose your salvation? Or who told that you have been forgiven at all?

No.

Numerous Bible authors.

Would it be possible for a given individual to demonstrate, regardless of what he says, that he was never Saved in the first place ??
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#20
RE: Mental endurance
(August 31, 2018 at 4:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: The thing about this certainty though, is that it cannot represent truth for many millions of people. The religious themselves tell us this, by making it clear there is only one "correct" faith. I do find it amazing that this doesn't seem to bother any of them. I feel it would be the slap in the face I needed if I was indoctrinated; and if that didn't do it, probably nothing would.

Have you considered that you may focus on theists, and conjecture that they're unhappy, in order to feel a little better about your own miserable existence?

Sorry, but from things you've posted about your life you seem pretty fucked in the head.
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