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Carbon sucker
#21
RE: Carbon sucker
It seems like the claims of efficient carbon removal are in violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy. Again, there is not enough renewable, carbon-free energy available to do this.
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#22
RE: Carbon sucker
(October 31, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It seems like the claims of efficient carbon removal are in violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Again, there is not enough renewable, carbon-free energy available to do this.

We don't need to remove all  the carbon; just most of the troublesome bits.
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Dr H


"So, I became an anarchist, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
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#23
RE: Carbon sucker
(November 2, 2018 at 7:27 pm)Dr H Wrote:
(October 31, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It seems like the claims of efficient carbon removal are in violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Again, there is not enough renewable, carbon-free energy available to do this.

We don't need to remove all  the carbon; just most of the troublesome bits.

The levels are, of course, increasing:

Daily CO2 now

The question that few US politicians are asking (at least publicly) is how to get those levels to decrease, and, that's the problem.
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#24
RE: Carbon sucker
(October 31, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It seems like the claims of efficient carbon removal are in violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Again, there is not enough renewable, carbon-free energy available to do this.

There are some places in the world that "violate" the Law of Conservation of Energy, like Iceland. There you have free energy in an aboundance in the form of geysers. Maybe carbon suckers could be put there to clean the carbon out of air.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#25
RE: Carbon sucker
(November 7, 2018 at 6:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(October 31, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It seems like the claims of efficient carbon removal are in violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  Again, there is not enough renewable, carbon-free energy available to do this.

There are some places in the world that "violate" the Law of Conservation of Energy, like Iceland. There you have free energy in an aboundance in the form of geysers. Maybe carbon suckers could be put there to clean the carbon out of air.

Seems reasonable, then again, it may be like trying to empty the oceans with a Shop-Vac?
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#26
RE: Carbon sucker
(November 8, 2018 at 11:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(November 7, 2018 at 6:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: There are some places in the world that "violate" the Law of Conservation of Energy, like Iceland. There you have free energy in an aboundance in the form of geysers. Maybe carbon suckers could be put there to clean the carbon out of air.

Seems reasonable, then again, it may be like trying to empty the oceans with a Shop-Vac?

There is some talk about what you said and other things in this TED talk





And there is an interesting concept that this woman says "Artificial forest" which would be much smaller to do the same job as what is rain-forest in Brazil doing.

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Now she didn't say this, but everyone is criticizing Brazil for cutting down the rain-forest and, while I do think that it is a bad thing to cut it down, you can't blame them too much because they are using the same mentality as everyone else. While most of the people think that rain-forest is a great thing nobody wants it in their back yard. I mean it's like saying "Let's convert Missouri and Illinois and Indiana into a rain-forest." people would tell you "Fuck you! Are you nuts?" and that wouldn't even be the half of the size of the rain-forest.

So unless people change their living habits that need a lot of land that could be forested or some sort of Manhattan Project gets going of creating very simple and safe nuclear reactors the only thing we got going for us are these devices.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#27
RE: Carbon sucker
I once pointed this fact out to a friend, a native of Brazil, who just shrugged his shoulders telling me, "Brazil needs to be developed just like America".  Global warming will be, in my opinion, the Achilles's Heel of world capitalism, in that capitalism drives countries to the lowest common denominator.
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#28
RE: Carbon sucker
(November 9, 2018 at 6:50 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Now she didn't say this, but everyone is criticizing Brazil for cutting down the rain-forest and, while I do think that it is a bad thing to cut it down, you can't blame them too much because they are using the same mentality as everyone else. While most of the people think that rain-forest is a great thing nobody wants it in their back yard. I mean it's like saying "Let's convert Missouri and Illinois and Indiana into a rain-forest." people would tell you "Fuck you! Are you nuts?" and that wouldn't even be the half of the size of the rain-forest.

I could get behind converting Texas to a rain forest.

It's looking like Trump never is going to get around to building that wall on their northern border.  So what the hell?  If we gotta keep it, might as well make it useful.
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Dr H


"So, I became an anarchist, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
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#29
RE: Carbon sucker
(November 13, 2018 at 5:41 pm)Dr H Wrote: I could get behind converting Texas to a rain forest.

It's looking like Trump never is going to get around to building that wall on their northern border.  So what the hell?  If we gotta keep it, might as well make it useful.
Yeah, good thinking. I remember reading truly fascinating autobiography called "Dry Guillotine" by René Belbenoît who escaped from prisons in French Guiana. And what is most fascinating is the rainforest that, for prisoners, was an impenetrable wall, but for people that lived there, natives, it was like nothing. Like being in their own living room while prisoners died from being lost and failing to find food. So that contrast is just mind blowing.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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