The Convoy

[The Valkyrie]

Kidding aside - let them in - or turn them back?

There' s upsides and down to both options.

I can't see letting them in - en mass. It would set a dangerous precidence - of " mob rule".

I also can't see turning them all back - human decency says you have to help those who will face death returning.

Turn them back.  Each and every one of them.  Rubber bullets, tent cities, chain link fences, pink jumpsuits, bread and water with moldy bologna (just like our own convicts get); until the prison bus gets back for the next load headed south. 

Build that wall and set up a DMZ mine field that N. Korea could admire from a distance.

I suppose to appear to give a shit, we could put in an immigration office every 100 miles or so in slight gaps in the wall.  Help a couple of asylum seekers fill out the fuckin paperwork and point them back from whence they came -- we will send you your test results within 90 days (give 'em time to hitchhike their way home).

Give 'em a link to this site:

https://hn.usembassy.gov/

 lurk moar.  ^^^^^

And hopefully those who would meet them with rubber bullets and violence will get hit by cluster bombs.

[Amarok]

Two more than you got (imagination aside).

Um, I am not asking they prove their heritage. I am asking that they fill out the paperwork. There are thousands and thousands of names in books of multitudes people who came here ~~~ wait for it ~~~

LEGALLY

That is not an unreasonable expectation of these groups marching their way northward (shit even animals know which way to migrate)...

Speaking of such -- are you so sure you want people dumb enough to migrate north for the winter here?? Improving the gene pool how exactly?? Yeah some probably will die on the trip. Darwin and awards... something like that.. 

anyhoo
Build that wall ! ! 

Enforce the law or cut off the aid to these countries. They dont seem to be spending it on the people living there.

Yup my point just keeps being proved

[Joods]

Two more than you got (imagination aside).

Um, I am not asking they prove their heritage.  I am asking that they fill out the paperwork. 

What makes you think they won't fill it out? You don't know those people any more than anyone else does and that's pretty ballsy to be making assumptions over shit you know nothing about. 

There are thousands and thousands of names in books of multitudes people who came here ~~~ wait for it ~~~

LEGALLY

That is not an unreasonable expectation of these groups marching their way northward (shit even animals know which way to migrate)...

I've never seen any four legged animal coming to another country seeking asylum or wanting a better life. Making that sort of comparison makes you look like an even bigger piece of shit.

Speaking of such -- are you so sure you want people dumb enough to migrate north for the winter here??  Improving the gene pool how exactly??  Yeah some probably will die on the trip.  Darwin and awards... something like that..

You're the dumb one. Your mother should have swallowed. 

anyhoo
Build that wall ! !  

Enforce the law or cut off the aid to these countries.  They dont seem to be spending it on the people living there.

Keep on being a clueless dimwit. It suits you well.

[Jane2d]

^ ^ ^ ^  Well read enough to know street violence is not grounds for asylum.

[The Valkyrie]

Two more than you got (imagination aside).

Um, I am not asking they prove their heritage. I am asking that they fill out the paperwork. There are thousands and thousands of names in books of multitudes people who came here ~~~ wait for it ~~~

LEGALLY

That is not an unreasonable expectation of these groups marching their way northward (shit even animals know which way to migrate)...

Speaking of such -- are you so sure you want people dumb enough to migrate north for the winter here?? Improving the gene pool how exactly?? Yeah some probably will die on the trip. Darwin and awards... something like that..

anyhoo
Build that wall ! !

Enforce the law or cut off the aid to these countries. They dont seem to be spending it on the people living there.

Stop paying taxes.

The current US regime is just giving it to the rich and corporations, and not the Americans who actually need it.

[Seraphina]

^ ^ ^ ^  Well read enough to know street violence is not grounds for asylum.

lol.

-Teresa

[Angrboda]

I don't know that there's much you can do about this convoy other than process those who attempt to enter legally and continue to try to intercept those who aim to evade border enforcement. You can send the military, but they are limited by law to playing a supporting role only; they can't intercept illegal entrants themselves. So that's helpful, but not much. Fortunately for Republicans in the south, many of whom are facing Democratic candidates who are further left on the Democratic spectrum than those in the north, this caravan is a gift to their hopes of election. Trump and Republicans are using the truth about immigration, along with a healthy dose of lies, to stir up their base about it, and it likely will give them the boost they need to weather the November midterms. It's sad, but there's really nothing the Dems can do about it.

The following quote from a study I recently posted about is quite germane:

“White voters with racially conservative or anti-immigrant attitudes switched votes to Trump at a higher rate than those with more liberal views on these issues,” the paper’s authors write. “We find little evidence that economic dislocation and marginality were significantly related to vote switching in 2016.”

(Vox)

[Brian37]

The GOP can take their White Nationalist bigoted bullshit and shove it up their asses. America has always been a nation of migrants. And I do not want to hear fucking shit, that if you were under threat of famine or violence or war, you would not try to flee, especially if you had a family. It is fucking nonsense that most of the people fleeing are violent. If someone wants to say "keep violent individuals out", that is one thing. But the vile fucking shit coming out of the orange turd's mouth isn't anything pragmatic or empathetic to anyone, it is just fucking preying on fear.

[onlinebiker]

The GOP can take their White Nationalist bigoted bullshit and shove it up their asses. America has always been a nation of migrants. And I do not want to hear fucking shit, that if you were under threat of famine or violence or war, you would not try to flee, especially if you had a family. It is fucking nonsense that most of the people fleeing are violent. If someone wants to say "keep violent individuals out", that is one thing. But the vile fucking shit coming out of the orange turd's mouth isn't anything pragmatic or empathetic to anyone, it is just fucking preying on fear.

Let' s keep in mind that President Trump's flapping hole asnd the reality of the situation on the ground are two different things.

Estimates are there is a group of 7200 people coming this way.

Who should we let in? 

Everybody?

Just " political refugees"?

What about some poor schlub who is just looking for a job?

How are we going to determine who gets in?

...

This month it' s 7200. Let them all in, and you can count on that number doubling or tripling next month.

[Joods]

I agree with Jor. If they're coming in through legal means, then we should help them.